Beef / Lamb & Pig Price Tracker

muleman

Member
Pulls the SQQ down which then pulls the deadweight price down which then pulls the SQQ down the following week and so it goes on!

All markets should grade lambs come 1 Aug every year for the prime sales and any not covered well enough should be pulled out and sold as store lambs after the prime lamb sale at double the comm rates for store lambs sold in the normal weekly store market.
Was just going to say this, it is a problem cos it will pull the deadweight price back.
 

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
Pulls the SQQ down which then pulls the deadweight price down which then pulls the SQQ down the following week and so it goes on!

All markets should grade lambs come 1 Aug every year for the prime sales and any not covered well enough should be pulled out and sold as store lambs after the prime lamb sale at double the comm rates for store lambs sold in the normal weekly store market.

I dare say the marts will adjust their scales to bolster that sqq a bit to counteract that.;)

DW grading and mart scales are all vague measures in the grand scheme of things, all that matters is return per lamb relative to COP.
 
Location
Devon
I dare say the marts will adjust their scales to bolster that sqq a bit to counteract that.;)

DW grading and mart scales are all vague measures in the grand scheme of things, all that matters is return per lamb relative to COP.

Deadweight prices are based on liveweight prices!

If liveweight drops then so does deadweight.

Deadweight grading is not vague and if you send lambs every week regardless of the price going up/down suddenly you would know that!
 

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
Deadweight prices are based on liveweight prices!

If liveweight drops then so does deadweight.

Deadweight grading is not vague and if you send lambs every week regardless of the price going up/down suddenly you would know that!

I said ‘dw grading and mart scales’ are vague. Would you disagree with that? I doubt many with any experience of either would.
 

Hfd Cattle

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Hereford
Pulls the SQQ down which then pulls the deadweight price down which then pulls the SQQ down the following week and so it goes on!

All markets should grade lambs come 1 Aug every year for the prime sales and any not covered well enough should be pulled out and sold as store lambs after the prime lamb sale at double the comm rates for store lambs sold in the normal weekly store market.
Just a small question ...... How can you sell store lambs in a red market ?
 
SATURDAY 11 TH SEPTEMBER 2021 ‘WIGTON WHITES’

A sensational entry of sheep for our annual sale met with a strong shed full of buyers from across the UK keen to source quality continental breeding sheep. 47 pens selling in excess of £300 and the £400 barrier breached on 8 occasions. From the outset to a top of £500 for I & H Hornsby, The Stackyard with Texel X a super entry of older sheep finding ready enquiry to a top of £290 for Beltex x Texel from GEH & SJ Stoddart, Hillside. The shearling show, competing for the D A Harrison Trophy, kindly sponsored by NWF Agriculture & Jim Peet Feeds was very ably judged by Mr C Buckley who after long deliberation placed a pen of 5 Beltex X from Mr R Aconley, East Cawthorne Farm as Champions. Mr Buckley backed his judgement and secured these outstanding sheep at £440.

The quality throughout the mart pens was commented upon by buyers throughout the day and our vendors should be congratulated for producing an unparalleled sale of stock that would be the envy of every sale throughout the UK. Shearlings averaged £226 up for 741 more sold producing sale results significantly in front of other continental sales.

Ewes Texel £290 £240 Hillside (Stoddart) £245 £210 £190 x 2 £172 x 3 £170 Wellington Farm (Harrington) £240 £210 x 2 £190 £165 £160 New Hall Farm (Skelton) £178 £168 Raise Lodge (Scrimgeour) £170 Fir Trees Farm (Phillips) Beltex £210 £205 £190 £175 £170 x 2 £165 x 2 Fir Trees Farm (Phillips) £170 £165 £160 x 2 Kerfield Farm (Aitken) £160 Prospect Farm (Hornsby) Suffolk £230 £175 New Hall Farm (Skelton) £195 Cunningarth (Watson) £188 Wellington Farm (Harrington) Shearlings Beltex £500 The Stackyard (Hornsby) £440 £350 £275 (2) £265 £250 East Cawthorne Farm £400 New Hall Farm (Skelton) £400 £380 £355 Hillside (Stoddart) £330 £265 Bankdale Farm (Wilson) £330 £320 (2) £270 £250 Wood Farm (Wilson) £310 £300 £280 £270 £265 Pasture Champion 5 Shearlings – L W Aconley & Son, East Cawthorne Farm House (Lawson) £310 £290 £255 Fir Trees Farm (Phillips) £270 Woodhouse Farm (Horsley) £270 Clea Hall (Bland) £250 (2) £245 Somerfield House (Wharton) Suffolk £410 £380 £245 Hillside (Stoddart) £260 (4) £255 (2) New Hall Farm (Skelton)£220 Pasture House (Lawson) Texel £390 £340 £295 Summer Hill (Ashburner) £370 Woodhouse Farm (Horsley) £360 £290 £265 £260 (2) Pasture House (Lawson) £330 £300 (2) £290 £280 £270 £265 £260 £255 (3) £250 (4) Hillside (Stoddart) £310 £255 £250 Derwentdale Farm (Barker) £310 £250 Heys Farm (Ireland) £300 Weary Hall Style £290 (4) £270 (2) £260 £255 (2) £250 New Hall Farm (Skelton) £250 The Stackyard (Hornsby) Dutch Texel £335 £300 £280 Hillside (Stoddart) Charollais £200 Woodhouse Farm (Horsley) Mule £170 Wellington Farm (Harrington) £160 Hillside (Stoddart) £160 (2) £150 Newtown Farm (Thompson) £150 Fir Tree (Phillips)

Gimmer Lambs – 1240 (+277 head on the year) An outstanding show of top quality ewe lambs sold away very well to full ringside of buyers averaging a remarkable £132.50/hd well in ahead of other recent breeding sales in the area for this season with 277 more sold on the year. Stronger lambs with tupping potential sold exceptionally well cashing regularly at over £150 per head with running lambs also well bid for regularly selling in around £110 to £140. The sale topped at £360 for a smart and shapely Beltex x Texel from R.E Miller, West Farm, Aspatria. Many pens of 5 were presented for the show giving our Judge Mr James Musgrave, Cardew Hall the difficult task of placing his 1st, 2nd & 3rd Prizes. A wonderful selection of show lambs, turned out to perfection which were a true credit to our vendors highlighting the quality that the auction had on offer. After much deliberation the judge expertly selected his champions an outstanding pen of 5 Beltex crosses from J Dixon & Sons, Lesson Hall which went on to make £330 per head selling to the judge himself. Reserve Champion pen was awarded to Adam & Amy Bell, Thethwaite with a wonderful pen of 5 Beltex Lambs selling for £220 per head to M J Lawson, Pasture House. Third Prize pen of lambs was awarded to smart and powerful pen of 5 Texel crosses from W. Murray & Sons, Prior House selling to £215 per head to G.E.H & S.J Stoddart, Hillside. Andrew Kirkbride kindly donated a Dutch Spotted Gimmer Lamb to the Great North Air Ambulance which sold for £600 purchased by Young Farmer Harley Harrison, Cobble Hall.

Top Averages: Messrs J Dixon & Sons, Lesson Hall – 78 Ave £187.59 R E Miller, West Farm – 18 Ave £172.78 Adam & Amy Bell, Thethwaite – 96 Ave 160.31 W Murray & Sons, Prior House – 28 Ave 157.50 Beltex £360 £180 £150 West Farm (Miller) £330 £320 £280 £270 £260 £250 £230 £180 £170 £165 £150 Lesson Hall (Dixon) £320 £240 £155 Lane End (Jackson) £300 Beech House (Peile) £280 £250 (2) £220 £195 £185 £170 (2) £155 (2) £154 £152 (2) £150 Thethwaite Farm (Bell) £260 Holly Barn (Peile) £215 Cobble Hall (Harrison) £215 £165 £160 £155 Prior House (Murray) £170 Lairdlaugh (Fisher) £158 £150 Nutta Farm (Townley) Dutch Spotted £300 Flimby Hall (Kirkbride) Texel £270 West Farm (Miller) £165 £162 £130 (2) £126 Prospect House (Hodgson) £162 £160 Raggetsyke (Crozier) £160 £142 £136 (2) Walton Wood Head (Oliver) £152 £126 Yew Tree (Peile) £150 £142 Halls Oven (Davidson) £150 £140 High House (Watson) £148 £130 Buckabank Farm (Brough) £148 £130 Town Head (Hird) £142 £138 £133 £127 Greystoke Castle Farm (Peile) £122 Wellington Farm (Harrington) Bleu Du Maine £155 £148 £125 £124 Barkbeth (Ewart) Dutch Texel £130 £120 £115 Barkbeth (Ewart) Champion Pen 5 Gimmer Lambs – Messrs J Dixon, Lesson Hall with the Judge Mr James Musgrave
 
Lanark fat lambs back to 220 ppkg. Down 12/13p iirc. Report saying too many under finished light lambs coming in. Fleshy heavy lambs still making good money.
seems strange dumping them in the fat market when stores are serious money🙄

Is that really a problem? Your well finished lambs will make just the same, the lean ones just make the average (& market report) look worse. It's no bearing on anything other than the condition of the lambs presented.

If those 'under finished' lambs had been sent deadweight, the same buyers would likely have been lapping them up.

Took a lorry load of stores to MElton early August , marked around 20 fats up at home ,but only put half in the fats on the day as thought they hadent got enough cover. The fats made £17 head more than the stores. Wish I’d put all 20 in. Therese plenty of buyers for meatEd lean lambs who may not stay for the store sale. Perhaps only lambs that are graded some hoW should be included in the sqq ?
 

Werzle

Member
Location
Midlands
Although they are still below ours the irish beef price is on the rise and the ball is firmly in the farmers court when shopping around for quotes. Good news when there is usually a glut of fat cattle coming off the grass at this time of year.
 

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
Took a lorry load of stores to MElton early August , marked around 20 fats up at home ,but only put half in the fats on the day as thought they hadent got enough cover. The fats made £17 head more than the stores. Wish I’d put all 20 in. Therese plenty of buyers for meatEd lean lambs who may not stay for the store sale. Perhaps only lambs that are graded some hoW should be included in the sqq ?

At Welshpool (and I think all the other markets locally) a grader goes through every pen, marking any lean lambs, and sometimes whole pens. Those lambs are then sold separately, but often make the same price when numbers are tight, and itemised as ‘unclassified lambs’ on the docket.

I would expect those lamb to be left out of the sqq, but would still make the report for the mart average for the fairy tale report.
 

Hfd Cattle

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Hereford
Simple, change it from a red market to a normal market.
Excuse my ignorance but I thought it was the choice of the auctioneer whether they have a red or green market not the vendor ?
Some have no choice but to go to a red market or on the dead . ...I didn't know they can just request the auctioneer to change it to a green market for the day cos their lambs weren't fat enough and if they did what happens to the tb restricted cattle that go on the same day because its a red market . 🤷‍♂️
 

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