Beef / Lamb & Pig Price Tracker

[Frank-the-Wool]

It is certainly the case for some farmers, 2 i know of had an invoice from the wool board to be paid within 28 days and 3 others never heard anything so called up and asked where the paperwork/ any payment was to be told that you ( the farmer ) owe us ( the wool board ) but do not worry we will take it off any future payments that may be due in future years!

All the above let the wool board collect the wool off farm so it sounds like transport is costing more than the wool is worth in some cases!

And all the above farmers would have 200+ ewes

You do talk a load of rubbish.
Who are these farmers that have been sent invoices?
BW have not sent out any invoices.
They should have done I am sure to some people who sent in poor quality wool that was covered in dags and was probably wet as well. That type of wool is almost impossible to sell at auction.
Good wools are now selling better and I agree it has a long way to go but if prices continue to increase for the 75% of the clip left to sell then those that have put their trust in the auction system may well be rewarded.

 

[gone up the hill]

As I understand it, the rest of the payment was for the 2020 clip, which came to more than some of the Irish prices floating around on here 12 months ago.
Fortunately I’m not paying haulage (other than my own 7 mile tractor/trailer trip), or sending in poor quality hill breed wool though.

I would be very surprised if you got any payment for the 2021 clip.

And if you are correct and they did pay you that 5pk bonus for 2021 wool then it opens a massive can of worms on how they can pay that but pay NOTHING for the vast majority of the 2021 clip when they receive it.

Either they should pay something for ALL of the 2021 clip they receive or should pay Nothing for the 2021 clip delivered!

Utter pee take if they are paying this 5pk bonus for 2021 wool and nothing for other grades of wool.

 

[gone up the hill]

You do talk a load of rubbish.
Who are these farmers that have been sent invoices?
BW have not sent out any invoices.
They should have done I am sure to some people who sent in poor quality wool that was covered in dags and was probably wet as well. That type of wool is almost impossible to sell at auction.
Good wools are now selling better and I agree it has a long way to go but if prices continue to increase for the 75% of the clip left to sell then those that have put their trust in the auction system may well be rewarded.

Nothing wrong with their wool and YES they have received invoices!

Thou tell me frank the wool how the HELL the top man at the wool board is worth £166k a year when he CANNOT/ WILL NOT pay suppliers in the same year for their wool??

The guy has failed at his job and should resign!

I sent to the wool board this year but if this bulls**t of not paying anything for the wool delivered in the same year carry's on next year year i will either send it to LP or use it as cattle bedding, i am fed up with carrying people like you on the gravy train who pay themselves fast sums of money for a job they are far from capable of carrying out!

 

[Frank-the-Wool]

Nothing wrong with their wool and YES they have received invoices!

Thou tell me frank the wool how the HELL the top man at the wool board is worth £166k a year when he CANNOT/ WILL NOT pay suppliers in the same year for their wool??

The guy has failed at his job and should resign!

I sent to the wool board this year but if this bullsh*t of not paying anything for the wool delivered in the same year carry's on next year year i will either send it to LP or use it as cattle bedding, i am fed up with carrying people like you on the gravy train who pay themselves fast sums of money for a job they are far from capable of carrying out!

You will be able to give their names then.

 

[neilo]

Nothing wrong with their wool and YES they have received invoices!

Thou tell me frank the wool how the HELL the top man at the wool board is worth £166k a year when he CANNOT/ WILL NOT pay suppliers in the same year for their wool??

The guy has failed at his job and should resign!

I sent to the wool board this year but if this bullsh*t of not paying anything for the wool delivered in the same year carry's on next year year i will either send it to LP or use it as cattle bedding, i am fed up with carrying people like you on the gravy train who pay themselves fast sums of money for a job they are far from capable of carrying out!

I’m still undecided whether you are being deliberately provocative, or whether you are just simple.

BW don’t buy your wool, they grade and sell it on your behalf. They can’t pay you until they have sold it, and know what it has made.
It’s no different to an auction mart not paying you until they have sold your stock, but with sales spread over a longer (12 month) period.

As for your personal attack on @Frank-the-Wool , I’m pretty sure you’re not paying anything to him these days, so maybe you would be well advised to wind your neck in before you make yourself look even more of a tit.

 

[Anymulewilldo]

Cant believe people still send to the wool board

Oh Jesus, here we go again…

 

[Mc115reed]

Getting hot in sassy in here for a Sunday night

 

[Anymulewilldo]

Getting hot in sassy in here for a Sunday night

Just wait, he’ll get here before long then BANG, away we go again…

 

[Al R]

I’ll ask some people I know with good Mule wool who send on the same lorry as me how much their wool balance is because of haulage etc. My 2020 like I explained earlier was -£4 for conventional and £115 for organic wool which didn’t include the organic premium. That was after haulage deducted.

 

[gone up the hill]

You will be able to give their names then.

Yes i can but FIRST YOU Frank need to justify the £166k the top man at the BWMB pay's himself??

( whilst paying farmers nothing for their wool ) .....

Of course you cant and the bloke and indeed the rest of the wool board should resign!

Because all they have done in the last 12 months is to sack hardworking and poorly paid depot staff whilst creaming off hundreds of thousands of ££ss for themselves!

 

[yellowbelly]

Getting hot in sassy in here for a Sunday night

Nowt worth watching on the telly .

 

[muleman]

Wool tracker

 

[gone up the hill]

I’m still undecided whether you are being deliberately provocative, or whether you are just simple.

BW don’t buy your wool, they grade and sell it on your behalf. They can’t pay you until they have sold it, and know what it has made.
It’s no different to an auction mart not paying you until they have sold your stock, but with sales spread over a longer (12 month) period.

As for your personal attack on @Frank-the-Wool , I’m pretty sure you’re not paying anything to him these days, so maybe you would be well advised to wind your neck in before you make yourself look even more of a tit.

I know how the wool board works.

I have great respect for frank the wool but he cannot defend/ justify the massive wages the top people at the wool board are now paying themselves whilst sacking hard working depot staff/ closing depots and paying farmers nothing for their wool in the clip year!

And can you neilo please check your wool board paperwork and confirm if or not you did get a payment for the 20201 clip year for your wool?

 

[Nithsdale]

Yes First but YOU Frank need to justify the £166k the top man at the BWMB pay's himself??

( whilst paying farmers nothing for their wool ) .....

£166,000 divided by 24,000,000kgs of wool sold by the WB (each year) gives you 0.007p/kg. That is 7-thousandths of a penny.

Tell me again how that single salary is robbing us?!

 

[Full of bull(s)]

What’s everyone’s opinions of the levy system nowadays? Better selling live or dead? Minette Batters, would you? Just a few questions to discuss on a quiet Sunday night on the thread

 

[muleman]

What’s everyone’s opinions of the levy system nowadays? Better selling live or dead? Minette Batters, would you? Just a few questions to discuss on a quiet Sunday night on the thread

Better burning it!

 

[Nithsdale]

Better burning it!

Is Minette really that bad?

 

[Frank-the-Wool]

Yes i can but FIRST YOU Frank need to justify the £166k the top man at the BWMB pay's himself??

( whilst paying farmers nothing for their wool ) .....

Of course you cant and the bloke and indeed the rest of the wool board should resign!

Because all they have done in the last 12 months is to sack hardworking and poorly paid depot staff whilst creaming off hundreds of thousands of ££ss for themselves!

Look at it this way, before C19 and the demand for wool dropped off a cliff the turnover of BW was over £30 million.
I am not sure what the total number of employees the CEO was responsible for but it would still be over 130.

There are still some 35k wool producers.
The auction system, the wool test house are all the responsibility of the CEO.

I am not sure that many other executives in a similar position would be paid less. Reducing a persons salary can be constructive dismissal.

Ask how much Laurence Pierce gets paid?

 

[gone up the hill]

The wool board in the days of when Frank the wool was on the board and the current wool board are like comparing chalk and cheese!

In Franks time the wool board members were worth every penny of their wages.

Todays wool board should just resign!

And yes i had great sympathy with the wool board in 2020 given the covid problems but they promised they would pay something for the 2021 clip, clearly the wool board is so badly run that is not possible but they wool board/CEO have not even had the deceny to say sorry to producers for not being able to pay anything for the 2021 clip.

Thus why the current wool board should resign and make way for new people who are forward thinking and can turn things around and regain the confidence of producers as the current wool board now have nothing!

 

[gone up the hill]

Look at it this way, before C19 and the demand for wool dropped off a cliff the turnover of BW was over £30 million.
I am not sure what the total number of employees the CEO was responsible for but it would still be over 130.

There are still some 35k wool producers.
The auction system, the wool test house are all the responsibility of the CEO.

I am not sure that many other executives in a similar position would be paid less. Reducing a persons salary can be constructive dismissal.

Ask how much Laurence Pierce gets paid?

LP pay for the wool within 7 days.

The wool board may or may not pay something 12 months later..

And are you really saying that for every wool board employee the CEO of the wool board earns nearly £1300 a person?? words fail me if this really is the case! most of these hardworking staff members themselves are only on less than 20k a year..

Keep digging Frank, the CEO of the wool board has failed in his job and should resign!

How long do you keep rewarding/endorsing failure Frank?