Beef / Lamb & Pig Price Tracker

[Dougalhtid]

And to be fair with plenty of Summer grass they will fatten them quite cheaply as many dont value the grass but just want some cattle of their own on the farm...more and more down here doing just that

Maybe cattle are shorter than we think?

 

[cattleman123]

Maybe cattle are shorter than we think?

Some of these retired dairy farmers have excellent quality grass as well, i agree they will learn ...fencing etc etc but buying cattle to them is an easy way to become a beef farmer,down here there are herds being sold every week many of us cant understand where they all come from...so many cows in the pipeline to sell they dont advertise to far ahead...

 

[Northern territory]

Some of these retired dairy farmers have excellent quality grass as well, i agree they will learn ...fencing etc etc but buying cattle to them is an easy way to become a beef farmer,down here there are herds being sold every week many of us cant understand where they all come from...so many cows in the pipeline to sell they dont advertise to far ahead...

Is tb the biggest factor for getting out of dairy.

 

[gone up the hill]

Some of these retired dairy farmers have excellent quality grass as well, i agree they will learn ...fencing etc etc but buying cattle to them is an easy way to become a beef farmer,down here there are herds being sold every week many of us cant understand where they all come from...so many cows in the pipeline to sell they dont advertise to far ahead...

One auction company is booked solid with dairy cow dispersals untill Jan 2023 to the point they are asking people to hold off from selling up!

 

[cattleman123]

Is tb the biggest factor for getting out of dairy.

Not really sure...Age...fed up with the work.....rising costs....cant get help...and slurry problems thats is going to be a big thing going forward as well...as the slurry dirty water police are everywhere at the moment....and of course...T/B as you say

 

[gone up the hill]

Is tb the biggest factor for getting out of dairy.

That/ Staff issues/ kids not wanting to be stuck to a cow's tail 365 days of the year, ever increasing red tape/ muck rules/ storage/ cost's going thru the roof and so the list goes on!

Mostly the smaller family farms going out, past years these cows would have been picked up and added to current herds that want to get larger, most of these herds have got to the point they cannot add/ do not want to add on more cows so what will happen this year with dairy cow prices who knows!

 

[Northern territory]

Not really sure...Age...fed up with the work.....rising costs....cant get help...and slurry problems thats is going to be a big thing going forward as well...as the slurry dirty water police are everywhere at the moment....and of course...T/B as you say

sad times, will some of the big boys fill the void or are we seeing a gradual decline in your area?

 

[gone up the hill]

Not really sure...Age...fed up with the work.....rising costs....cant get help...and slurry problems thats is going to be a big thing going forward as well...as the slurry dirty water police are everywhere at the moment....and of course...T/B as you say

Some talk the EA etc are going to ban the spreading of dirty water as well from Sept 1 st each year and farms will need 8 months of dirty water storage on top of the 8 month slurry storage...

Just totally unviable to be able to do these things!

 

[Anymulewilldo]

Dairy beasts up here have been a hellish trade this last week? Seems No shortage of confidence there.

 

[Northern territory]

That/ Staff issues/ kids not wanting to be stuck to a cow's tail 365 days of the year, ever increasing red tape/ muck rules/ storage/ cost's going thru the roof and so the list goes on!

Mostly the smaller family farms going out, past years these cows would have been picked up and added to current herds that want to get larger, most of these herds have got to the point they cannot add/ do not want to add on more cows so what will happen this year with dairy cow prices who knows!

Don’t blame them, which other country would put up with the crap we have had to endure as an industry.

 

[Gedd]

What is driving some of these very high suckled/ stirk prices is the sheer number of dairy farmers quitting and going into beef, they think they can buy these cattle then farm them dog and stick style and hardly spend a £ on them on farm and then sell them for top whack 12 months later!

Or the former suckled calf breeders that think that us that finish cattle have been making a fortune on the back of them breeding them grass is always greener and all that

 

[Optimus]

Cows are well and truly on the hit list at the moment.

 

[cattleman123]

sad times, will some of the big boys fill the void or are we seeing a gradual decline in your area?

The big boys come along...then they haul muck 10/15 miles and haul the food back..tearing up the roads as they do so...lots of farms have far to many cows in one place...and some farms are next to rivers etc etc...Dirty water is going to be a major problem going forward

 

[Dougalhtid]

Or the former suckled calf breeders that think that us that finish cattle have been making a fortune on the back of them breeding them grass is always greener and all that

Can’t be many suckler cows left? My man been buying whole herds & anything else to kill for years. As have many others

 

[muleman]

What is driving some of these very high suckled/ stirk prices is the sheer number of dairy farmers quitting and going into beef, they think they can buy these cattle then farm them dog and stick style and hardly spend a £ on them on farm and then sell them for top whack 12 months later!

They think 'beef and sleep' farming looks very attractive don't they!

 

[gone up the hill]

Can’t be many suckler cows left? My man been buying whole herds & anything else to kill for years. As have many others

Suckled calves today around 9 months if steers and contx would be anything from £850 to £1200 head.

Native angus steers around the £800 mark at 9/10 months old.

 

[cattleman123]

And thankfully most hate Sheep...so we are fairly safe fellow sheep boys...just got to go in now and try and get the keep

 

[gone up the hill]

They think 'beef and sleep' farming looks very attractive don't they!

At the moment unless you have 100% home grown feed ( with the exception of protein/minerals ) and straw and a lot more acres of grass than you need so you do not have to buy fert for grassland then the beef margins are very narrow.

Sheep job has been good untill now but the current prime price is just not enough, the prices pre xmas at the lowest sheep prices should be at any point in the year given the fact input costs are now running out control and rising daily!

Put fert on for silage and cost it out you will be at around £24 a roundbale of silage this year, a cow will eat what? 12 bales a year so they will cost £288 just in silage costs a year before you get onto all the other costs!

 

[Shebb90]

Not really sure...Age...fed up with the work.....rising costs....cant get help...and slurry problems thats is going to be a big thing going forward as well...as the slurry dirty water police are everywhere at the moment....and of course...T/B as you say

EA man is doing every farm in this area at the moment including us he put a lot that's for sure, he's hit ground running

 

[Shebb90]

Some talk the EA etc are going to ban the spreading of dirty water as well from Sept 1 st each year and farms will need 8 months of dirty water storage on top of the 8 month slurry storage...

Just totally unviable to be able to do these things!

Not like that but not good