Skintagain
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- Location
- Perched on the Pennines
If I were 50 plus and i had no one to carry on the job if they came with all that shite I would auctioneer the cattle myself in yard!!!
Beef / Lamb & Pig Price Tracker
- Thread starter TFF
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- Location
- Cheshire
We keep weighing up putting a cubicle house and outdoor feeding yard in for the cows. Then I read a bit more about slurry/dirty water storage and think all the expenditure they are wanting would buy a LOT of years worth of straw! And you don’t get the EA mithering as much of you can say you are 100% straw bedded
Skintagain
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- Location
- Perched on the Pennines
I would consider portable cubicles but not permanent ones. If job goes a bit sour just lift them out maybe
It`s seems there`s hardly a day goes by at present without a story in the press about the big water companies busily tipping sewerage in to rivers and yet the EA tw*ts are all busy chasing farmers....
Water companies can afford to pay the right people?It`s seems there`s hardly a day goes by at present without a story in the press about the big water companies busily tipping sewerage in to rivers and yet the EA tw*ts are all busy chasing farmers....
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
It`s seems there`s hardly a day goes by at present without a story in the press about the big water companies busily tipping sewerage in to rivers and yet the EA tw*ts are all busy chasing farmers....
To be fair, they should be chasing some farmers, AS WELL AS the water companies taking advantage of sewage exemptions to the full of course.
And if they start blaming water companies it becomes everyone who goes to the toilets problem. People don't want to hear that it's their sh!t in the river. They can blame farmers and be seen to be doing something but really it's not nearly enough. Farming has to take some of the blame but it's pointless if sewage is still allowed to be dumped.
I suppose they have to start with farming then eventually the sewage companies can't hide anymore.
cow sh1t is just chewed up grass and others plants, what goes down sewers is full of allsorts of chemicals, I think they should start with them.
kfpben
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- Location
- Mid Hampshire
They won’t hear that it’s their sh!t in the river though, any more than people relate ag pollution to their need for cheap food.
Sewage is just some problem the nasty water companies cause according to the general public.
Very few people have any conception of how real, practical life works.
Ceri
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Im hearing this more & more from the suckler boys... We buy Weanlings/young store cattle & run them around & sell them as strong stores. They all say to me it's a better job than keeping a cow for 12 months & they're wat I would say doing the suckler job right to.... I can see more & more people round the weanling ring in the near future = more competition = higher prices = that job won't be very profitable either......
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Hilly
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- Location
- Scottish Borders.
No asset with stores , sucklers are no money making a hens but they canny asset building
Ceri
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Yes very true one bloke once told me suckler cows are just a form of old fashioned wealth another bloke also told me that its no good being the wealthiest bloke in the room on paper but u can't afford to buy a loaf of bread
Stores are an asset surely if they are paid for. B&B pigs are not an asset.Yes very true one bloke once told me suckler cows are just a form of old fashioned wealth another bloke also told me that its no good being the wealthiest bloke in the room on paper but u can't afford to buy a loaf of bread
A lot to do with how the cows are kept though, locking them up in September and feeding them until may like a dairy cow is gonna be expensive! People need to consider where they’re trying to keep these cows, if it doesn’t suit then change the system! You wouldn’t keep a texel ewe at the top of a mountain sucking on a rock an eating heather, but as we know others thrive there! Big hungry cows cost money but you’ll get your name in the paper when they have a fancy calf, to some that’s more important than costs
Hilly
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- Location
- Scottish Borders.
How many are paid for ? You also have to sell them to get the proffit ? You don’t have to sell the cow she rolls on till next year .
Ceri
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I agree if they are on borrowed money they are not but probably plenty of suckler herds on overdrafts as well
Hilly
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- Location
- Scottish Borders.
Yes your right ! I still regard a a cow n calf a better asset than a store beast tho .
Hilly
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- Location
- Scottish Borders.
What’s the Billy Bunter sh!t ?Well I thought the same but I'm not gonna argue with hilly billy bunter...
Yep I agree. If we had more running I would have liked some.