Beef / Lamb & Pig Price Tracker

Electricfencer

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Cotswolds
Ewes and lambs a decent trade in Hereford yesterday. £210-260/outfit bought some decent shaped lambs on slightly older ewes with anything younger to go on and breed around £300+. Smaller hill ewes mainly singles would be £130-160/outfit. The better ewes with twins looked a better buy imo
What are old mules with young twins making?
 

Hfd Cattle

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Hereford
Sid does make some relevant points. It's no good producing something that the GP can't afford to buy .
How we level it out is a mystery to me .
It all starts with education .
I don't think we can rely on the affluent to be our only customers we need the whole of society to realise good meat is a vital part of our diet .
It needs to be taught in schools and in the home ........and thats where the battle is lost 😒😒
The fact that our 'processing livestock' (cull cows/ewes) sre selling at a premium tells a story about the GPs eating habits ....
Many now don't know how or what to do with a good joint (of meat🙂🙂) these days.
Guth is right the costs we are experiencing does dictate that the market prices are where they should be ,or near enough, but unless the family income rises or people learn to prioritise their finances differently then we will eventually see it affecting us drastically .

Worrying times ahead I think 🤷‍♂️
 

Sid

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
South Molton
Sid does make some relevant points. It's no good producing something that the GP can't afford to buy .
How we level it out is a mystery to me .
It all starts with education .
I don't think we can rely on the affluent to be our only customers we need the whole of society to realise good meat is a vital part of our diet .
It needs to be taught in schools and in the home ........and thats where the battle is lost 😒😒
The fact that our 'processing livestock' (cull cows/ewes) sre selling at a premium tells a story about the GPs eating habits ....
Many now don't know how or what to do with a good joint (of meat🙂🙂) these days.
Guth is right the costs we are experiencing does dictate that the market prices are where they should be ,or near enough, but unless the family income rises or people learn to prioritise their finances differently then we will eventually see it affecting us drastically .

Worrying times ahead I think 🤷‍♂️

What I am hoping will happen is what happened in lockdown.

People actually deciding that you can eat better and more cost effectively at home.

Trade up at weekends for a special meal.
A leg of lamb or steak washed down with a pint organic milk of course.

There will be a proportion of the consumer's that can not do this.

With cereals becoming increasingly less cost effective to feed to pig and poultry, the cheap meats, red meat becomes an option in the weekly shop.
 
Since ewes started hitting big ££ over the past few weeks, most are out of the slaughter marts, fresh off farms. Unfortunately some will have travelled 300 miles + just to reach the abattoir, in lamb, cold and hungry.

I would never wish a prosecution on any fellow farmer, however the FSA and their vets need to take the issue seriously and issue some warnings at the very least.
Part of the problem regarding this scenario is that it will be the transporter that could be prosecuted rather than whoever is actually sending the ewes in. If a wagon turns up at the mart to load sheep, it's stretching to think that the driver will go through the whole load to check for a handful in-lamb.
 

Mc115reed

Member
Livestock Farmer
It really pee'd me of the other day when someone starting talking bs that castration of lamb was bad welfare, having cull ewes and hogg's in lamb because you have 1000's of tup lambs roaming the country jumping in and out of groups of sheep getting them in lamb is far worse for welfare.:mad:
It’s not poor welfare it’s just f**king lazy shepherding
Sid does make some relevant points. It's no good producing something that the GP can't afford to buy .
How we level it out is a mystery to me .
It all starts with education .
I don't think we can rely on the affluent to be our only customers we need the whole of society to realise good meat is a vital part of our diet .
It needs to be taught in schools and in the home ........and thats where the battle is lost 😒😒
The fact that our 'processing livestock' (cull cows/ewes) sre selling at a premium tells a story about the GPs eating habits ....
Many now don't know how or what to do with a good joint (of meat🙂🙂) these days.
Guth is right the costs we are experiencing does dictate that the market prices are where they should be ,or near enough, but unless the family income rises or people learn to prioritise their finances differently then we will eventually see it affecting us drastically .

Worrying times ahead I think 🤷‍♂️

There isn’t a large portion of the “general public” eat lamb… there is that eat beef ….
I don’t know anybody that’s a regular for a lamb chop or a lamb roast dinner hell I’m not and Iv 2 freezers full the stuff ,..
All our lamb is going too be bought by our Muslim friends and they will eat it regardless of the price because it’s pretty much all they bloody eat lamb and chicken…
 
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What I am hoping will happen is what happened in lockdown.

People actually deciding that you can eat better and more cost effectively at home.

Trade up at weekends for a special meal.
A leg of lamb or steak washed down with a pint organic milk of course.

There will be a proportion of the consumer's that can not do this.

With cereals becoming increasingly less cost effective to feed to pig and poultry, the cheap meats, red meat becomes an option in the weekly shop.
The poultry job looks dire, I am not criticising people getting into intensive egg or broiler production but by god you are risking a hell of a lot of money on something that could ultimately bust you. At least with cattle and sheep they can eat other diets and still produce quality meat.
 

Sid

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
South Molton
The poultry job looks dire, I am not criticising people getting into intensive egg or broiler production but by god you are risking a hell of a lot of money on something that could ultimately bust you. At least with cattle and sheep they can eat other diets and still produce quality meat.
That's the key, but the skew on carbon footprinting doesn't make a pretty picture slow finished meat.
Or does that matter in times like these?
 

Electricfencer

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Cotswolds
It’s not poor


There isn’t a large portion of the “general public” eat lamb… there is that eat beef ….
I don’t know anybody that’s a regular for a lamb chop or a lamb roast dinner hell I’m not and Iv 2 freezers full the stuff ,..
All our lamb is going too be bought by our Muslim friends and they will eat it regardless of the price because it’s pretty much all they bloody eat lamb and chicken…
It’s not poor what?
 
That's the key, but the skew on carbon footprinting doesn't make a pretty picture slow finished meat.
Or does that matter in times like these?
All you read in fw and the like is some brothers in Scotland or wherever have invested in building for 120,000 hens to make the business sustainable for the future, well I know you have got to take risks in business but people will be taken in by this kind of crap not realising the risks involved when things turn sour.
 

Hfd Cattle

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Hereford
It’s not poor welfare it’s just f**king lazy shepherding


There isn’t a large portion of the “general public” eat lamb… there is that eat beef ….
I don’t know anybody that’s a regular for a lamb chop or a lamb roast dinner hell I’m not and Iv 2 freezers full the stuff ,..
All our lamb is going too be bought by our Muslim friends and they will eat it regardless of the price because it’s pretty much all they bloody eat lamb and chicken…
Trying to generalise really. Eldest brother loves lamb ...its his favourite meat...but he doesn't buy it cos of the cost of it ......and he is pretty well off !

I agree with a post a few days ago by someone saying" thank God for our ethnic friends"
 

Sid

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
South Molton
All you read in fw and the like is some brothers in Scotland or wherever have invested in building for 120,000 hens to make the business sustainable for the future, well I know you have got to take risks in business but people will be taken in by this kind of crap not realising the risks involved when things turn sour.
Businesses need to be able to flex.

Lamb producers can actually do that quite easily, switching from new season lamb to later is easy. Less reliance on creep, pushing lambs forward and filling the gaps with lambs finished on forage crops at a lower COP.

Plenty of red meat producers have been spending last years highs. As long as that's been on updating tired equipment that's OK, as tax relief that may hurt this year!
 

Tubbylew

Member
Location
Herefordshire
Sid does make some relevant points. It's no good producing something that the GP can't afford to buy .
How we level it out is a mystery to me .
It all starts with education .
I don't think we can rely on the affluent to be our only customers we need the whole of society to realise good meat is a vital part of our diet .
It needs to be taught in schools and in the home ........and thats where the battle is lost 😒😒
The fact that our 'processing livestock' (cull cows/ewes) sre selling at a premium tells a story about the GPs eating habits ....
Many now don't know how or what to do with a good joint (of meat🙂🙂) these days.
Guth is right the costs we are experiencing does dictate that the market prices are where they should be ,or near enough, but unless the family income rises or people learn to prioritise their finances differently then we will eventually see it affecting us drastically .

Worrying times ahead I think 🤷‍♂️
I've long said that everyone should leave school knowing how to cook a healthy meal, be more use than some things that are taught.
 

Hfd Cattle

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Hereford
I've long said that everyone should leave school knowing how to cook a healthy meal, be more use than some things that are taught.
I was forced to do 'home eeconomic' lessons in my school cos I was banned from woodwork, metalwork and the science labs due to my 'behaviour ' . They thought they were punishing me but I quite enjoyed it !
Didn't go to school much though!
 

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Man fined £300 for bonfire-related waste offences

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Written by William Kellett from Agriland

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A man has pleaded guilty at Newtownards Magistrates’ Court to waste offences relating to a bonfire next to the electrical sub-station on the Circular Road in Newtownards, Co. Down.

Gareth Gill (51) of Abbot’s Walk, Newtownards pleaded guilty to two charges under the Waste and Contaminated Land (Northern Ireland) Order 1997, for which he was fined £150 each and ordered to pay a £15 offender’s levy

On June 25, 2018, PSNI officers went to Gill’s yard, where they found a large amount of waste consisting of scrap wood, pallets, carpet and underlay.

Discussion with Northern Ireland Environment Agency (NIEA) officers confirmed the site...
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