Beef / Lamb & Pig Price Tracker

[Humble Village Farmer]

@gone up the hill and @Frank-the-Wool although you seem miles apart in your opinion the fact is your not it’s obvious we need prices to rise to maintain the status quo however if the product has been produced ie this seasons crop of lambs what will ultimately control price is ability of supply to meet demand, and what incentive the processor will dangle to the producer to carry on production at current levels going forward

Yes, they both know exactly what they're talking about but with maybe different predictions.

One thing I would say is that affordable grazing will always be available. Some will accept little or no rent in order to avoid cropping, scrub regeneration or tree planting. And by the same token, graziers will only be able to pay what the business can afford. Paying over the odds won't be a sustainable long term strategy.

 

[unlacedgecko]

so were stuck with you then, can we send guth instead.

Only until I make enough money for a foreign investor visa. Think it's about £3mil. How many tack sheep is that?

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Only until I make enough money for a foreign investor visa. Think it's about £3mil. How many tack sheep is that?

About 6 million shetlands….

 

[Anymulewilldo]

Be nearer £80+ up here around me.an no guarantee of good fences or water at that.

Cheshire dairy boys would be wetting themselves offering 150+ with no fencing at all and not over bothered about water

 

[Jackov Altraids]

Unpopular opinion, the UK has very poor welfare for sheep.

Not just unpopular, I would hope/ think it was wrong.

Having sick / lame , people/ animals is to some extent unavoidable. It's how they are then cared for that matters.

 

[Hilly]

About 6 million shetlands….

Get them on 40 acre if tou can agford the fertiliser

 

[Mc115reed]

Not just unpopular, I would hope/ think it was wrong.

Having sick / lame , people/ animals is to some extent unavoidable. It's how they are then cared for that matters.

In New Zealand where my geckos practices are enspired by they don’t really see there sheep too know they’re lame… they’re normally taken down and eaten by a tiger or something before the farmer leaves his BBQ long enough too see them suffering…
Same with breach lambings…
Inheritly that practice has bred a much hardier sheep over there… herd immunity as such

 

[unlacedgecko]

In New Zealand where my geckos practices are enspired by they don’t really see there sheep too know they’re lame… they’re normally taken down and eaten by a tiger or something before the farmer leaves his BBQ long enough too see them suffering…
Same with breach lambings…
Inheritly that practice has bred a much hardier sheep over there… herd immunity as such

Your gecko? A tiger? Are you drunk?

Not all sheep in NZ are extensively grazed and lambed unshepherded. This may be true for high country flocks, but there are plenty of lower sheep properties where they seen daily. Speak to @Global ovine who attended the birth site of every one of his 3000 recorded lambs.

Are there still hill flocks in the UK which lamb unshepherded on the heather?

As for my practices, my sheep are seen daily. They receive prompt and appropriate treatment, be that drugs or euthanasia. I also ensure pain relief is give to all cases of lameness and assisted lambings. I was speaking to a UK farmer the other day and outlined my practices. He asked me what NSAIDs were.

 

[Blue.]

Who that with?

Dunbia Preston

 

[Mc115reed]

Your gecko? A tiger? Are you drunk?

Not all sheep in NZ are extensively grazed and lambed unshepherded. This may be true for high country flocks, but there are plenty of lower sheep properties where they seen daily. Speak to @Global ovine who attended the birth site of every one of his 3000 recorded lambs.

No I’m sat on a tractor muck spreading for a contractor too make my sheep enterprise look like it makes money loose my marbles when I’m muck spreading it’s an awful job

 

[neilo]

Summer grass lets round here can easy be 100 quid for PP

I was talking to someone about the grass keep auction in Welshpool mart a couple of weeks ago. He was the underbidder on one 17ac block (on behalf of a young lad that works for him) and had to let it go at £230/ac.

Similar was making £180/ac last year, with a local AD plant taking it for silaging & carting 5 or 6 miles.

 

[Anymulewilldo]

I was talking to someone about the grass keep auction in Welshpool mart a couple of weeks ago. He was the underbidder on one 17ac block (on behalf of a young lad that works for him) and had to let it go at £230/ac.

Similar was making £180/ac last year, with a local AD plant taking it for silaging & carting 5 or 6 miles.

Something else that distorts the job!! AD!! A heavily subsidised power generator that only works as long as the government keeps throwing money at it.

 

[Greythundercloudys]

Everything is subsidised one way or another, railway's, steel etc, just no one goes on about it, 200£ a lmb when the sub goes or how do you afford feed at 500 aton, fertiliser, 1000. Tractor 150 grand, quad bike 10 grand.

 

[Anymulewilldo]

Everything is subsidised one way or another, railway's, steel etc, just no one goes on about it, 200£ a lmb when the sub goes or how do you afford feed at 500 aton, fertiliser, 1000. Tractor 150 grand, quad bike 10 grand.

True. It just seriously pees me off that other subsidised industries are using our resources and due too their heavy subsidies can pay rates which we just cannot match. Then the firms go bust every few years when the chief exec gets a bit too greedy with his/her expenses claim. And they just set up and carry on again. And the high uos seem too think its ok too waste billions for tax payers pounds on it while scrutinising us at every turn telling us we must offer “public good for public funds” whats more good than the food we eat??
Sorry, bit of a rant there. But i feel much better now.

 

[Henarar]

Even those that claim to get no subsidy actually do, its very difficult not to use anything government provided or any government services and its all subsidy

 

[TlymarT_028]

Got a few scruffy looking crossbreds left over from starting out with nothing. There's a mule cross and a few dorset crosses in there, from 2 shear to 5 shear, few with long tails but been on a good bite so built like tables at the minute. what are they worth?

 

[Sierra Lama]

Everything is subsidised one way or another, railway's, steel etc, just no one goes on about it, 200£ a lmb when the sub goes or how do you afford feed at 500 aton, fertiliser, 1000. Tractor 150 grand, quad bike 10 grand.

Spot on. Plenty of industry is subsided in this country but in different forms. New factories etc coxed along with big grants etc.

 

[Anymulewilldo]

Got a few scruffy looking crossbreds left over from starting out with nothing. There's a mule cross and a few dorset crosses in there, from 2 shear to 5 shear, few with long tails but been on a good bite so built like tables at the minute. what are they worth?

More than you’d think if they are well meated!

 

[TlymarT_028]

More than you’d think if they are well meated!

Very....it was a - take the cap off and scratch your head kind of moment

 

[kps]

Got a few scruffy looking crossbreds left over from starting out with nothing. There's a mule cross and a few dorset crosses in there, from 2 shear to 5 shear, few with long tails but been on a good bite so built like tables at the minute. what are they worth?

Dad reckoned he'd never seen ewes as dear as they were in Melton today. Plenty over £200.