Beef / Lamb & Pig Price Tracker

[lloyd]

Not sure on that tbh!

Certainly on the beef side i do not think many farmers will ( and that is already being seen both in sucklers and some large scale finishers not replacing cattle as they sell prime cattle.

On the sheep, no end of people are talking about either cutting ewe numbers or stopping lambing altogether as the returns due not warrant all the hard work/hassle of lambing sheep and that is both early and late lambing flocks.

Dairy farmers are quitting faster than the auctioneers can sell the cows, two more herds near to me are going this week, another has said his herd is going as soon as he gets a clear TB test, another has said he is thinking of quitting ( which means he will for sure as once you start thinking like that they always quit ) .

And in previous years there has always been a lot of young go getter young farmers keen to start farming but these people seem to have gone very quiet lately and few seem that intrested in starting farming !

There must be a lot of talking drivel as ewes with lambs have been very strong money
in Hereford .

 

[Anymulewilldo]

even the last one?

February and March here more than made up for having a dry January

 

[Shebb90]

Not sure on that tbh!

Certainly on the beef side i do not think many farmers will ( and that is already being seen both in sucklers and some large scale finishers not replacing cattle as they sell prime cattle.

On the sheep, no end of people are talking about either cutting ewe numbers or stopping lambing altogether as the returns due not warrant all the hard work/hassle of lambing sheep and that is both early and late lambing flocks.

Dairy farmers are quitting faster than the auctioneers can sell the cows, two more herds near to me are going this week, another has said his herd is going as soon as he gets a clear TB test, another has said he is thinking of quitting ( which means he will for sure as once you start thinking like that they always quit ) .

And in previous years there has always been a lot of young go getter young farmers keen to start farming but these people seem to have gone very quiet lately and few seem that intrested in starting farming !

There's is a lot of dairy cows on the market, which has made me wonder is that what's holding the beef trade back bit , with more barrens going out, either cos farmers selling out or people culling hard and replacing with fresh milk? Just a thought.

 

[Anymulewilldo]

There must be a lot of talking drivel as ewes with lambs have been very strong money
in Hereford .

Farmers will waste money but never grass??

 

[gone up the hill]

Grain for muck arrangements??

Ah yes the arable farmer gives you 2 tonnes of Wheat and you give him 1 tonne of cattle muck in return

 

[lloyd]

Farmers will waste money but never grass??

Totally agree but hardly the signs of despair.

 

[Anymulewilldo]

Ah yes the arable farmer gives you 2 tonnes of Wheat and you give him 1 tonne of cattle muck in return

Sold!! Now I just need too find this arable farmer before someone else does!

 

[gone up the hill]

There's is a lot of dairy cows on the market, which has made me wonder is that what's holding the beef trade back bit , with more barrens going out, either cos farmers selling out or people culling hard and replacing with fresh milk? Just a thought.

No one seems to be able to answer why the dairy cow trade is holding up so well considering all the dispersal sales.

 

[thorpe]

Not sure on that tbh!

Certainly on the beef side i do not think many farmers will ( and that is already being seen both in sucklers and some large scale finishers not replacing cattle as they sell prime cattle.

On the sheep, no end of people are talking about either cutting ewe numbers or stopping lambing altogether as the returns due not warrant all the hard work/hassle of lambing sheep and that is both early and late lambing flocks.

Dairy farmers are quitting faster than the auctioneers can sell the cows, two more herds near to me are going this week, another has said his herd is going as soon as he gets a clear TB test, another has said he is thinking of quitting ( which means he will for sure as once you start thinking like that they always quit ) .

And in previous years there has always been a lot of young go getter young farmers keen to start farming but these people seem to have gone very quiet lately and few seem that intrested in starting farming !

we useually stop buying cattle to put in yards at this time of year , run em down till after harvest. going by the number of stores on the mkt will they be there in the autemn? im going to keep buying a few but only the better end , what would you do guth?

 

[Shebb90]

No one seems to be able to answer why the dairy cow trade is holding up so well considering all the dispersal sales.

Tbf cows are cheap, they anit a lot dearer than before Christmas, yes maybe the top end is say £100 ish more but not a lot more. And with culls so strong, it doesn't take much to change a barren for fresh milk, had one other day high 1500 for a dairy cow and AVE cows 1300's

 

[Chae1]

No one seems to be able to answer why the dairy cow trade is holding up so well considering all the dispersal sales.

More demand for sh!t cuts of meat because people are cutting back?

 

[gone up the hill]

we useually stop buying cattle to put in yards at this time of year , run em down till after harvest. going by the number of stores on the mkt will they be there in the autemn? im going to keep buying a few but only the better end , what would you do guth?

I have no idea what is the right or wrong thing to do at the moment tbh but the options are :

I think if you still have enough grain in store to see you thru to harvest and cattle to sell every month then carry on buying stores as per you normally would.

If you do not have enough grain in store untill you combine then hold fire buying stores as unless the beef price smashes £5 kilo by the end of Sept or looks likely to get there then there will be a lot of cheap store cattle about come late Sept/ October.

 

[lloyd]

I can't understand why the pure livestock boys dont contract
farm large acreages of arable ,after all your all due a holiday.

 

[gone up the hill]

More demand for sh!t cuts of meat because people are cutting back?

Cull price is good v new milk cows so i suspect shebb is correct and that farmers are culling their poor/ older cows very hard and buying in much younger fresh/ much higher yielding cows for not much more ££

 

[lloyd]

Tbf cows are cheap, they anit a lot dearer than before Christmas, yes maybe the top end is say £100 ish more but not a lot more. And with culls so strong, it doesn't take much to change a barren for fresh milk, had one other day high 1500 for a dairy cow and AVE cows 1300's

Have you told Cowabunga ?

 

[Sid]

I absolutely agree with all the ^^^ above.

However the GP will not be buying beef at current levels because they simply cannot afford it.

But they will HAVE to pay according to some!

You say that but the takeaway/farm shop beside Sedge market on Sat was packed out to the point you could not get in the car park with people buying high quality/expensive beef/lamb/ pork and takeaways as well..

The volume they sell compared to the big supermarkets in a drop in the ocean.

Those with money still have money. The rest of society are feeling the squeeze

 

[thorpe]

I have no idea what is the right or wrong thing to do at the moment tbh but the options are :

I think if you still have enough grain in store to see you thru to harvest and cattle to sell every month then carry on buying stores as per you normally would.

If you do not have enough grain in store untill you combine then hold fire buying stores as unless the beef price smashes £5 kilo by the end of Sept or looks likely to get there then there will be a lot of cheap store cattle about come late Sept/ October.

plenty of corn and plenty of cattle to sell, stores a plenty at the moment but they are a good trade but they always seem to be .

 

[Northeastfarmer]

plenty of corn and plenty of cattle to sell, stores a plenty at the moment but they are a good trade but they always seem to be .

Store cattle are cheap

 

[thorpe]

Store cattle are cheap

ive got to admit its what they do when youve bought them!

 

[e3120]

Just caught a supermarket advert for 'meat and veg mince'. Their story: lower carbon footprint. Actual story: let's head off beef shortage by watering it down