Beef / Lamb & Pig Price Tracker

[Top Tip.]

Didn’t buy a great lot only a couple of hundred of so thought they looked too dear but I was buying late after Christmas
Definitely made a small profit on what I bought and probably a bit more on what we finished of our own
I haven’t the cheapest system all on bought in feed so need to allow £20 when buying which is guesswork
What I bought was £15 dearer and what I sold was £8/£10 cheaper but it’s been a much kinder winter bought better hoggs and had less losses
If it had been another bad winter the job would have been a write off
To summarise I would say stores need to be cheaper and buyers will proceed with extreme caution

You might be right but when has logic come into it? As has been said already look at the price of ewes with lambs at foot ,they were cheap last year when hoggs were a big trade . I will stick my neck out and say store lambs will be dearer this backend i really can’t see them being cheaper. A lot of forage crops being put in up here and they are only going in for one reason ,to feed store lambs.

 

[livestock 1]

And that is why wherever I go I take the trailer. Yes it takes longer and uses more fuel but I have to get there anyway, and you aren’t held to ransom like you say when they knock you one or two down sharpish to get you started. I have made that mistake and won’t do it again

It’s always difficult going somewhere and being in that position to justify a wagon
Likewise I went to Kirby the other day didn’t have the pickup and trailer as it was elsewhere seen a couple of outfits would have done but didn’t bid didn’t seem worth the hassle for one or so

 

[Werzle]

If youve got a good auctioneer and the buyers have travelled a fair distance once he gets one or two into them they are committed to filling a wagon

Tbf auctioneers did a fantastic job keeping trade fair during early covid and i wouldnt fancy the stress handling vendors expectations etc. If they can keep store trade up it heaps pressure on those trying to pull the fat trade down.

 

[jendan]

Would they be dearer on the week i didnt go

Ewes with big lambs and big hoggs would be a touch dearer i think. There were a few that could be bought. I bought a handful of ewes and lambs at £80 and £76,fair size lambs. And half a dozen Tex x hoggs at £83. They will do for me,but probably not ones that @Anymulewilldo would buy.

 

[livestock 1]

You might be right but when has logic come into it? As has been said already look at the price of ewes with lambs at foot ,they were cheap last year when hoggs were a big trade . I will stick my neck out and say store lambs will be dearer this backend i really can’t see them being cheaper. A lot of forage crops being put in up here and they are only going in for one reason ,to feed store lambs.

I sincerely hope you are right. I sell some every backend to release pressure here.
Store lambs are partially valued on retrospective hogg values and they have been no disaster but haven’t got going. Take the Beltex out of the mart reports and take them out of the average and it’s different reading.
Plenty of new buyers for store lambs last backend will have realised by now it’s not all milk and honey. Feed is up plus everything else fuel haulage medicine wages only means one thing to me but as I say I’m just putting numbers into my head and coming out with a logical answer
Personally I think there will be a bit of a cap on the top end (not Beltex) types and the rest will be similar or less

 

[Northern territory]

Other thing to consider is whether a lot of wheat will go in and less root crops, might be a one off year but some might sacrifice the rotation chasing the big bucks

 

[jendan]

It'll be that before winters in. Just shy of 48ppl for June. Quote from potters Facebook post.

"The feeling is that there is still more to come, partly to cover continuing on farm inflation but a major concern is that these record prices are still not converting to additional milk and with that hangs the harsh reality that there could be a shortage of milk in the coming winter until farmers have the confidence to push on."


You'd of thought that surely must transfer across to meat processors thoughts but clearly not yet.

International Dairy products auctions are already easing!

 

[Greythundercloudys]

I can't see gimmers being 200£ this year, unless new season lmbs take a big jump and that carrys on threw the autumn months, not sure that will happen, big hoggs have finally lifted but it will soon be June, its 4 months to late.

 

[Bossfarmer]

Grandad has always told me, and continues too tell me… even if they don’t leave much money, the cattle leave a BIG pile of shite. And that’s worth more than gold too a heavy grass farm like ours. When you look at the spots that our kid has missed with the spreader and look at the difference in grass he’s definitely not wrong!!

What time of year do u spread on grass? Itll need to be well rotted stuff? We normally just spread on stubble

 

[TheRanger]

International Dairy products auctions are already easing!

Only a blip due to a Chinese lockdown

 

[jendan]

Only a blip due to a Chinese lockdown

You think? Im not convinced.

 

[Anymulewilldo]

What time of year do u spread on grass? Itll need to be well rotted stuff? We normally just spread on stubble

If it’s dry enough we spread! Most of it comes straight out of the sheds, never seen the point of burning diesel to put it in a heap too let a ruck of nitrogen escape

 

[Tomo23]

International Dairy products auctions are already easing!

I think they have been falling all spring though but UK price still keeps pushing up.

 

[Bob the beef]

What time of year do u spread on grass? Itll need to be well rotted stuff? We normally just spread on stubble

I midden all mine in fields and spread mid to late August. Gives you a hell of a flush of grass going into the backend

 

[Anymulewilldo]

Other thing to consider is whether a lot of wheat will go in and less root crops, might be a one off year but some might sacrifice the rotation chasing the big bucks

It’s already happening down here. I’m already a big chunk of winter grass down that is all going into WW after 2nd Haylage cut

 

[goodevans]

It’s hard to know unless you see the animal, a lot of these dear beasts are fit to kill.

Heifers are more likely getting bulled

 

[Aspiring Peasants]

What time of year do u spread on grass? Itll need to be well rotted stuff? We normally just spread on stubble

Build up a muck heap over winter and spread it on meadows once the crop is off

 

[beltextexel]

 

[kps]

It’s already happening down here. I’m already a big chunk of winter grass down that is all going into WW after 2nd Haylage cut

I spoke to a big Hogg finisher out Lincolnshire he finishes a lot on veg, said that a lot were packing growing it and going into wheat easier to grow and trouble finding pickers.

 

[livestock 1]

What time of year do u spread on grass? Itll need to be well rotted stuff? We normally just spread on stubble

I’ve been spreading muck on silage ground this week
Might do a bit more then put another dose on when the crop comes off