Beef / Lamb & Pig Price Tracker

[gone up the hill]

Why £25? Store lambs are always pretty close to fat price all through the Autumn, as the buyers all hope for a price surge about now. I'm pretty sure @willy is working on £50 for an April born, grass reared lamb sold in the Autumn, not £50 after a long, wet winter. I would suggest lambs wouldn't have been far off that last Autumn, if the pound hadn't taken a dive following June's turkey rush.

You wont make anything by buying store lambs for the same price as fat lambs ref why store lambs need to be at least £20/25 head less than fat lambs.

Even people like TW cant rear a lamb and make a profit at £50 head and his is a very low cost system.

Would be very intresting to see Willys costings...... ( or rather all the things he has left off )

Complete and utter madness to be pushing for fat lambs to be worth less than they were in the 1980's when farm inputs/ living costs back then were generally 1/3 or 50% of what they are today..

You do the lambs for £50 and NZ will be at £45, you then do the lambs for £40 and then NZ do them for £35 and so on, where will it end?? only group that will gain from this flawed thinking is the supermarkets.

 

[neilo]

You wont make anything by buying store lambs for the same price as fat lambs ref why store lambs need to be at least £20/25 head less than fat lambs.

Even people like TW cant rear a lamb and make a profit at £50 head and his is a very low cost system.

Would be very intresting to see Willys costings...... ( or rather all the things he has left off )

Complete and utter madness to be pushing for fat lambs to be worth less than they were in the 1980's when farm inputs/ living costs back then were generally 1/3 or 50% of what they are today..

You do the lambs for £50 and NZ will be at £45, you then do the lambs for £40 and then NZ do them for £35 and so on, where will it end?? only group that will gain from this flawed thinking is the supermarkets.

The fact remains that store lambs make nearly as much as fat in the Autumn glut. Plenty are even bought out of the fat ring at times, a neighbour even bought 500 out of the fat in January this year.

I don't think anyone is 'pushing' for £50 lambs, just being prepared for when it happens. If you don't believe there are times when that will happen, I'd suggest taking off the rose tinted specs.

Perhaps @willy would put his costings up when you eventually publish yours?

 

[matthew]

Its still the same price in Tesco whether the buyers pay £65 in September or £95 now.New Zealand leg usually £10/kg any time of the year.They are probably buying it in for £4-£5 kg,if that.

NZ and UK leg was £5 / kg retail for the two weeks leading up to Easter, except at Waitrose where NZ was £7.45 / kg and UK at least 3x that. A small whole UK leg was labelled at £37.58.

That can't happen these days. We have EID tags and full traceability after all.

Oh the irony. Like it.

The UK sheep system is pile of yoosless paperwork without a birthday.
And even more so when dealers still sell stores using their own flock numbers.

 

[Hampton]

To those avid watchers of this thread, please have a quick look on the Please help thread in Agricultural Matters.
I have posted a picture of the Heifer I am selling for charity next Friday 5th May.
Please come and bid if you can make it. All proceeds (and even auctioneers commission!) will go to charity!

 

[organic]

NZ and UK leg was £5 / kg retail for the two weeks leading up to Easter, except at Waitrose where NZ was £7.45 / kg and UK at least 3x that. A small whole UK leg was labelled at £37.58.

With due respect was the Waitrose price for new season lamb as opposed to teg or NZ price?

 

[matthew]

With due respect was the Waitrose price for new season lamb as opposed to teg or NZ price?

I don't suppose they knew, or anyone else either.
All labelled Leg of LAMB'.

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Hoggs down today....mine were

50 £100
70 £100
55 £93
56 £92
52 £92
54 £89

All straight off grass so content

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Springers looked crap

 

[Chae1]

Finished Irish bulls destined for Algeria @agrilandIreland
http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/finished-irish-bulls-destined-for-algeria/

Keep sending it elsewhere boys our bull price is lifting nicely over here

Credit to them, they don't stick. Would we be as good at finding alternative markets? Was reading the ifj and they have exporting a huge amount of cattle.

 

[Full of bull(s)]

Credit to them, they don't stick. Would we be as good at finding alternative markets? Was reading the ifj and they have exporting a huge amount of cattle.

That will depend on how brexit pans out I guess. WTO tariffs both ways would destroy the sheep industry but could in the short term benefit the beef trade. Our lack of self sufficiency will cause serious supply issues and the supermarkets know it as does the rest of the meat trade. How many supply schemes have sprung up suddenly every major meat firm wants dairy calves and has a team employed sourcing and rearing them even two sisters are at it now. The downside is with so much 'forward bought' through blade and the likes the free market side will be much more volatile when lulls in demand occur. It's gonna be a rollercoaster ride that's for certain

 

[Al R]

Hoggs down today....mine were

50 £100
70 £100
55 £93
56 £92
52 £92
54 £89

All straight off grass so content

70kg? Went through our cull/empty ewe lamb flock today and a fair few ewe lambs were 70-80kg and 3-3.5 BCS, if the trade was that high here they'd be gone!

 

[Northeastfarmer]

70kg? Went through our cull/empty ewe lamb flock today and a fair few ewe lambs were 70-80kg and 3-3.5 BCS, if the trade was that high here they'd be gone!

Sell them as cull ewes...they were mind blowing

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Has beef gone up?

 

[Al R]

Sell them as cull ewes...they were mind blowing

Got 23 actual culls going on the 10th so hoping it's still good as a few failed to go up the combi clamp as we're so big
Yearling mules with young twins topped at £210 a few weeks ago :0

 

[kps]

Has beef gone up?

Foyle up 3p.

 

[Chae1]

Cows in Carlise trade had to be seen to be believed 347 in
Dairy cows av 119p
Beef cows av 157p

Cull cow made £1850 at local mart yesterday. Was a record price.

 

[bobk]

Cull cow made £1850 at local mart yesterday. Was a record price.

Must have been a whopper

 

[Chae1]

Must have been a whopper

1150kg charolais!

 

[Northeastfarmer]

1150kg charolais!

I dread to think what that cost to keep a year

 

[Sheep135]

Has beef gone up?

Merthyr stand on 3.51 with dairy sired the same price as beef sired, 280-380kg +5p