Beef / Lamb & Pig Price Tracker

Location
Devon
You said
"Most of their wages are around £70k for junior staff, the big wigs are all over £100k a year."

Well you've already changed your tune for junior jobs at 70k down to 30k. And some less again.
The salaries for the top 6 'leadership team' are listed as 75k - 135k (Jane King on 130-135k, which I too would like to know how she 'earns' that) so big wigs not 'all over 100k' either.

I'm not defending Adhb, as I said, they need to be held accountable. But exaggerating things so to make your point reduces your credibility.

The jobs that I would consider as junior are all around 30k to 50k.

Mid Tier jobs are around £65k/75K

Top jobs are all over £100k ( they may say £75k but that will only be pro rata, ie part time and a lot more if full time! )

Jayne king was on £144k at least two years ago! the 135K figure doesn't include money they put into her pension fund on top of her basic ( if you can call it that! ) wage!

Paying anyone over 50k is not the best use of levy payers money!
 

S J H

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Bedfordshire
The jobs that I would consider as junior are all around 30k to 50k.

Mid Tier jobs are around £65k/75K

Top jobs are all over £100k ( they may say £75k but that will only be pro rata, ie part time and a lot more if full time! )

Jayne king was on £144k at least two years ago! the 135K figure doesn't include money they put into her pension fund on top of her basic ( if you can call it that! ) wage!

Paying anyone over 50k is not the best use of levy payers money!

Paying the right person over £50k per year is the absolute best use of levy money!

Please do get some facts before spouting crap that you've heard in market.
 
The jobs that I would consider as junior are all around 30k to 50k.

Mid Tier jobs are around £65k/75K

Top jobs are all over £100k ( they may say £75k but that will only be pro rata, ie part time and a lot more if full time! )

Jayne king was on £144k at least two years ago! the 135K figure doesn't include money they put into her pension fund on top of her basic ( if you can call it that! ) wage!

Paying anyone over 50k is not the best use of levy payers money!
They are not over the top pay packets for people in those positions as long as results for the work they do come back
 
Location
Devon
They are not over the top pay packets for people in those positions as long as results for the work they do come back

Maybe they are not for the right people that deliver results.

But for whatever reasons nearly all the people earning high wages/very high wages at the AHDB are failing to deliver any results for levy payers, if they were working in the private sector then all of them would have been put out to grass long ago!

Take Jayne King, she brings no results for levy payers that justify anywhere near her £144k pay packet, far better/ more qualified people than her about who could deliver much better value for money for levy payers at 50% of her current wage!

AHDB beef and lamb have a income of something like £60 million a year, cant recall the actual figure but from memory of that 60 million something like £23/25 million goes on staff wages/ pension payments/ building costs etc etc.

Only two good things that the AHDB beef and lamb do is the daily market reports and the live to dead events, other than that and the tiny bit of money spent on advertising the rest of the work of the AHDB beef and levy is a complete waste of levy payer funds!
 

FordFarmer

Member
Location
Devon
I think levies should work on a percentage basis, that way they have a real motive in making the sales of Beef and lamb a success and thus feel the benefits when they do well and the consequences when they do badly. Problem with today's world is no one is held accountable for anything...
regarding their 'simply beef and lamb' Facebook page it gives hundreds of recipe ideas supposed to encourage red meat sales but not once does it mention or suggest the idea that using farm assured and British produce will contribute to the success of those recipes. I wonder if I lived in a city how much contact or visibility the marketing they do would have. I never see signs, billboards, or anything else that visually gets the message across. Just how do they promote our product to the millions living in cities up and down the country?
Lots of questions and I'm sure we will asking the same in 5 years time sadly..
 

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
regarding their 'simply beef and lamb' Facebook page it gives hundreds of recipe ideas supposed to encourage red meat sales but not once does it mention or suggest the idea that using farm assured and British produce will contribute to the success of those recipes.

I don't think they would be allowed to make fraudulent claims like that. Use non-FA meat:nailbiting:, NZ lamb or the US beef that will likely be heading our way, and those recipes will still work just the same.
 

FordFarmer

Member
Location
Devon
They don't need to make fraudulent claims, simply suggest that British consumers could use native sourced high quality British meat. Doesn't have to be an order or direction, just a suggestion.. But as previously mentioned I believe state aid rules and regs prevent them from making these suggestions in the marketing material.
 

exmoor dave

Member
Location
exmoor, uk
Maybe they are not for the right people that deliver results.

But for whatever reasons nearly all the people earning high wages/very high wages at the AHDB are failing to deliver any results for levy payers, if they were working in the private sector then all of them would have been put out to grass long ago!

Take Jayne King, she brings no results for levy payers that justify anywhere near her £144k pay packet, far better/ more qualified people than her about who could deliver much better value for money for levy payers at 50% of her current wage!

AHDB beef and lamb have a income of something like £60 million a year, cant recall the actual figure but from memory of that 60 million something like £23/25 million goes on staff wages/ pension payments/ building costs etc etc.

Only two good things that the AHDB beef and lamb do is the daily market reports and the live to dead events, other than that and the tiny bit of money spent on advertising the rest of the work of the AHDB beef and levy is a complete waste of levy payer funds!


Well to use PBH's word again. ...... nonsense!

AHDB beef and lamb income for 2015/16 was just over £17m

I don't know where you've managed to get £60m from, prehaps that's the AHDB as a whole.

Maybe want to check your facts before posting.....just saying

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Maybe they are not for the right people that deliver results.

But for whatever reasons nearly all the people earning high wages/very high wages at the AHDB are failing to deliver any results for levy payers, if they were working in the private sector then all of them would have been put out to grass long ago!

Take Jayne King, she brings no results for levy payers that justify anywhere near her £144k pay packet, far better/ more qualified people than her about who could deliver much better value for money for levy payers at 50% of her current wage!

AHDB beef and lamb have a income of something like £60 million a year, cant recall the actual figure but from memory of that 60 million something like £23/25 million goes on staff wages/ pension payments/ building costs etc etc.

Only two good things that the AHDB beef and lamb do is the daily market reports and the live to dead events, other than that and the tiny bit of money spent on advertising the rest of the work of the AHDB beef and levy is a complete waste of levy payer funds!
I would think there's a bit more to it then that I would hope anyway I'm sure @Clive people could put a computer program together to give that information I wonder are they involved in brexit deals ?
 

hally

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
cumbria
It seems to me that the advertising campaigns are a bit diy and half hearted, I'd rather see less staff, and employ an advertising agency to do the job.

Think of the warburtons or m & s food ads, but to promote British beef and lamb.
Couldn't agree more pay professionals for a professional job
 

Raider112

Member
It seems to me that the advertising campaigns are a bit diy and half hearted, I'd rather see less staff, and employ an advertising agency to do the job.

Think of the warburtons or m & s food ads, but to promote British beef and lamb.
Exactly, if the vast majority of their income isn't aimed at promotion and advertising then I don't know why they are taking our money.
 

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