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Raider112

Member
There is no evidence that a bit of muck in an animal transporter has any effect on spread of diseases. In fact, there is evidence that ''phages'' in muck and slurry engulf and destroy a number of bacteria and viruses. (who can remember amoeba from school biology?)

There is plenty of evidence that a bit of muck makes it far easier to load cattle. Conversely, we all know that a shiny clean aluminium container is a definite deterrent to easy calm loading.

There is every reason to believe that spraying water and disinfectant everywhere is wasteful and harmful to the environment.

I have watched Lorries wash out at auction marts, and thought that the vapour from the spray will carry whatever pathogens are present onto all the adjacent vehicles.
I agree with most of that, especially loading up into a dirty trailer compared to a shiny one, but like belly clipping, health and safety doesn't seem to matter to those that make the rules when it suits them but they don't mind adding the injuries to the statistics when they want to emphasise our poor safety record.
 

muleman

Member
Can we get back on topic
Just wondering if the lamb price will get the jitters again at the end of the month when we agree to leave the EU. Totally lost as what will happen if anything re tariffs etc ?
Maybe @Frank-the-Wool will know
If its anything like the last few times we were supposed to 'leave', lambs will be dearer in feb, cant see a need to rush them away, they will be getting scarce.
 
Can we get back on topic
Just wondering if the lamb price will get the jitters again at the end of the month when we agree to leave the EU. Totally lost as what will happen if anything re tariffs etc ?
Maybe @Frank-the-Wool will know
My guess is that the lamb trade will be affected later in the year, when BoJo threatens them with a hard Brexit. Hopefully events in China will help us.
 

Frank-the-Wool

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
East Sussex
Can we get back on topic
Just wondering if the lamb price will get the jitters again at the end of the month when we agree to leave the EU. Totally lost as what will happen if anything re tariffs etc ?
Maybe @Frank-the-Wool will know

We aren't leaving at the end of the month and we have always been going to leave (possibly) at the end of 2020. However the end of 2020 is now a lot more definite and concerning than all the previous ideas as it will happen this time, deal or no deal.

The sheep sector will be very good until I guess about September when reality begins to sink in that there may be no deal and those naughty WTO tariffs come back to haunt us.
Why would you buy store lambs in the Autumn if they were going to have a 40% plus tariff on them from the 1st January 2021.
 

Bob

Member
Location
Co Durham
We aren't leaving at the end of the month and we have always been going to leave (possibly) at the end of 2020. However the end of 2020 is now a lot more definite and concerning than all the previous ideas as it will happen this time, deal or no deal.

The sheep sector will be very good until I guess about September when reality begins to sink in that there may be no deal and those naughty WTO tariffs come back to haunt us.
Why would you buy store lambs in the Autumn if they were going to have a 40% plus tariff on them from the 1st January 2021.
We are leaving the EU on the 31st January. All this scaremongering, sheep meat is in short supply especially in the North of England, even if some Tarrif is applied after the implementation period ends sheepmeat will still be wanted
 

AndrewM

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BASIS
Location
Devon
We are leaving the EU on the 31st January. All this scaremongering, sheep meat is in short supply especially in the North of England, even if some Tarrif is applied after the implementation period ends sheepmeat will still be wanted
we are only leaving the political institutions at the end of jan, we wont be leaving any of the trade or regulator deals until the end of the year.
 

@dlm

Member
It’s the big landowners who will destock getting rid of large tracts of currently tenanted land in the process. My main fear is the lack of slaughter houses once this happens
Fully agree in principle with big landowners destocking , though is relative even if a smaller % could have follow on effects with slaughterhouses as you say. One thing however that could change your statement is the building on land and difference in the north south divide. It’s shocking around here, I rarely go more than 5 miles from home unless I have to, even a trip to London is 5 miles to train station and don’t see too many local villages or towns. But when you see outskirts of towns 10 miles away you havnt seen for a year, you can easily get lost as another 2500 houses there and extra roundabouts etc. Even in the sticks where I am I’ve been approached in last week by a portaloo company, wanting to buy a strip of land I’d guess worth 100000 an acre, sadly wouldn’t want an acre, so offer 8/9 square foot to rent a shed, if I do one then rest probably follow, have two other sets of buildings but admit I’d reduce numbers if I could get stupid money from one set of buildings, spend on updating other two sets of buildings but reduce workload and hassle and put acres down to wildflowers or whatever. Against morals but only here once and money for nothing when you can’t find staff , or certainly to improve profits then it makes sense. I think that would be a common case in many parts of the south
 

LAMBCHOPS

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We aren't leaving at the end of the month and we have always been going to leave (possibly) at the end of 2020. However the end of 2020 is now a lot more definite and concerning than all the previous ideas as it will happen this time, deal or no deal.

The sheep sector will be very good until I guess about September when reality begins to sink in that there may be no deal and those naughty WTO tariffs come back to haunt us.
Why would you buy store lambs in the Autumn if they were going to have a 40% plus tariff on them from the 1st January 2021.
Why buy them this past autumn glad I did and didn't listen to the doomsayers they did not help the sellers did they.If we keep being negative we will repeat the low trade again
 
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Werzle

Member
Location
Midlands
Why buy them this past autumn glad I did and didn't listen to the doomsayers they did not help the sellers did they.If we keep being negative we will repeat the low trade again
You sound like an auctioneer. Farmers were faced with the government talking about paying to cull sheep, so selling some early seemed sensible rather than risking being hard up. Most markets/auctioneers sold less stock last year but borrowed more so be careful who you take advice from.
 

LAMBCHOPS

Member
You sound like an auctioneer. Farmers were faced with the government talking about paying to cull sheep, so selling some early seemed sensible rather than risking being hard up. Most markets/auctioneers sold less stock last year but borrowed more so be careful who you take advice from.
make your own judgement
 

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