Beef / Lamb & Pig Price Tracker

[Optimus]

Surely when numbers are tight by pulling the price that will only mean less cattle they can source?

Not sure, I've given up trying to work it all out.they'll find out the hard eventually.once all the cattle have gone.

 

[Top Tip.]

Not sure, I've given up trying to work it all out.they'll find out the hard eventually.once all the cattle have gone.

I’ve been telling these deadweight buyers for years that they are just putting themselves out of a job by screwing the price all the time.

 

[Shebb90]

I’ve been telling these deadweight buyers for years that they are just putting themselves out of a job by screwing the price all the time.

Especially now with cost of feed and fertiliser at £460 for nitrogen...... Nothing can drop, and I can see cash getting tight.

 

[gone up the hill]

Especially now with cost of feed and fertiliser at £460 for nitrogen...... Nothing can drop, and I can see cash getting tight.

According to quotes on the Fert tracker thread Nitrogen quotes today are anything from £510 to £550+ a tonne.....

 

[Shebb90]

According to quotes on the Fert tracker thread Nitrogen quotes today are anything from £510 to £550+ a tonne.....

Get on...... I was told that yesterday...

 

[gone up the hill]

Get on...... I was told that yesterday...

At those prices then other for grain you cannot afford to put it on!

All this fodder about that everyone is saying will be worthless could well be worth a lot of ££ come Jan/ March unless the Fert price drops well back!

 

[Optimus]

At those prices then other for grain you cannot afford to put it on!

All this fodder about that everyone is saying will be worthless could well be worth a lot of ££ come Jan/ March unless the Fert price drops well back!

Not sure the grain boys could put it on for that.

 

[gone up the hill]

Not sure the grain boys could put it on for that.

Even at those prices i would put 60 units of N in the seedbed of spring crops but that would be it and certainly the grass ground will not get any with the exception of perhaps the grazing ground for tupping early lambing ewes!
For grain you need to put some on to give it a kick in the spring but at those prices you may cut back on further applications.

The problem for livestock farmers if they do not put the fert on is that grain yields will be much less and the price of feed will rocket!

 

[Optimus]

I’ve been telling these deadweight buyers for years that they are just putting themselves out of a job by screwing the price all the time.

I know ,same here but there just at the bottom of the pile.it might help if we had a good fat cattle market up here but there isn't.

 

[Shebb90]

At those prices then other for grain you cannot afford to put it on!

All this fodder about that everyone is saying will be worthless could well be worth a lot of ££ come Jan/ March unless the Fert price drops well back!

Personally I would still buy it, yes it going to hurt and means you won't be able to do other things but way I see it you got to be able to feed your stock if your stock farming, and what fertiliser will grow is still cheaper compared to buying in extra crops to feed them, but weather you do it year after year I not sure on that.

 

[Optimus]

For grain you need to put some on to give it a kick in the spring but at those prices you may cut back on further applications.

The problem for livestock farmers if they do not put the fert on is that grain yields will be much less and the price of feed will rocket!

True but if there's no pigs, poultry or cattle to eat all the feeding stuff.can see a few problems on the horizon.

 

[gone up the hill]

Personally I would still buy it, yes it going to hurt and means you won't be able to do other things but way I see it you got to be able to feed your stock if your stock farming, and what fertiliser will grow is still cheaper compared to buying in extra crops to feed them, but weather you do it year after year I not sure on that.

I think if the fert price is still so high come Jan/ Feb when livestock farmers start thinking about ordering it and they find out the high price of the fert they will go out and buy as much fodder as they can to use then so they can keep their own fodder for the following winter and thus will not need to cut so much next summer.

 

[Top Tip.]

True but if there's no pigs, poultry or cattle to eat all the feeding stuff.can see a few problems on the horizon.

If the livestock is gone there is an awful lot of arable product’s looking for a home. We are pretty interdependent.

 

[Shebb90]

I think if the fert price is still so high come Jan/ Feb when livestock farmers start thinking about ordering it and they find out the high price of the fert they will go out and buy as much fodder as they can to use then so they can keep their own fodder for the following winter and thus will not need to cut so much next summer.

Possibly I guess but if all do that feed will fair dear...... We got just enough for spring now all in shed..... So got peace of mind that we have got it anyway which is the way I like it.

 

[ImLost]

One of those Friday nights that's rare these days.... scratching my head wondering what to do.

So, let's have that Angus picture up here please, I need it for a comparison exercise.

 

[Av Gorritt]

Woodheads £4.12 for next week .

 

[Gedd]

Just thinking if fert stops as dear wont summer any bought in store cattle and let the ewes run a bit more ground only fertilize cutting ground and buy stores next backend

 

[muleman]

Just thinking if fert stops as dear wont summer any bought in store cattle and let the ewes run a bit more ground only fertilize cutting ground and buy stores next backend

Stores will be sold in the spring if there no fert!

 

[Shebb90]

Stores will be sold in the spring if there no fert!

And there will be no buyers if no fertiliser

 

[thorpe]

Woodheads £4.12 for next week .

is that base got afew plain ones over weight but it still might be the best home, he said he would have them cus he has all the best!