Your correct with the price of 800 I put up the dear one. I got another one from the same bunch, same weight for 700 but it's a lim
Beef / Lamb & Pig Price Tracker
- Thread starter TFF
- Start date
Which market?
- Location
- South Molton
Processing capacity will be having a slight effect on prices with the worry of not being able to slaughter animals.
Also finishers will be seeing feed prices rise. How do you mitigate that cost short term? Pay less for the stock.
If fat price,and the possible slaughtering capacity issue is sorted, rises, BPS hits the bank account then who knows!
Also finishers will be seeing feed prices rise. How do you mitigate that cost short term? Pay less for the stock.
If fat price,and the possible slaughtering capacity issue is sorted, rises, BPS hits the bank account then who knows!
- Location
- East Sussex
The gloom and doom merchant of Sedgemoor needs to read some of the other posts and get some balance on what may or may not be occurring.
Firstly at this time of the year the younger cattle always take a drop in price whatever they are and up until now these weaned calves have been a ridiculous price. However a crash is unlikely as looking at the census figures the numbers of cattle continue to reduce. Having travelled around more recently it is noticeable that while it has been a grassy Autumn in the south and west, feed supplies further north aren't at all plentiful and the prospect of buying in high priced fodder may not be an option for expensive cattle.
Clean cattle prices are being maintained at a time of the year when normally more would come out and depress the price. There have always been more cows sold at this time of the year to save feeding them through the winter, but demand for feeding cows is still strong and well finished cows are still a good trade.
On the sheep trade, store lambs do look to be over heating, however the fat price continues to be strong for the time of year and there are other factors at play. Shipping costs from the southern hemisphere are far more expensive and supply lines are seriously disrupted. More UK supermarkets are trying to reduce imports and get a year round supply of home grown products, Waitrose for one and I believe Aldi and Lidl are similar. The number of lambs available this winter will be far lower than normal with many ewe lambs being kept to breed from and if you look at the census figures the numbers to start with are lower. The number of lambs going into the EU are still significant and while we don't have any BCP's (Border Control Posts) in the EU yet we could set one up and ship lambs out alive to reduce pressure on slaughtering capacity here. Our illogical government haven't banned it yet!
Ewes I believe will get very dear as at present they are the cheapest red meat that you can buy. The best heavy ewes have hardly dropped in price at all and anything that someone hopes will breed again has been taken out of the killing to be tupped. Grazing ewes while a good price probably leave a better potential margin than store lambs, especially once the glut has gone which will be after the end of this month.
Once the pig market stabilizes then there will be less pork and it will be dearer unless we bring in more cheap pork and chicken from the USA!
If everything stayed the same then it would be very boring!
Firstly at this time of the year the younger cattle always take a drop in price whatever they are and up until now these weaned calves have been a ridiculous price. However a crash is unlikely as looking at the census figures the numbers of cattle continue to reduce. Having travelled around more recently it is noticeable that while it has been a grassy Autumn in the south and west, feed supplies further north aren't at all plentiful and the prospect of buying in high priced fodder may not be an option for expensive cattle.
Clean cattle prices are being maintained at a time of the year when normally more would come out and depress the price. There have always been more cows sold at this time of the year to save feeding them through the winter, but demand for feeding cows is still strong and well finished cows are still a good trade.
On the sheep trade, store lambs do look to be over heating, however the fat price continues to be strong for the time of year and there are other factors at play. Shipping costs from the southern hemisphere are far more expensive and supply lines are seriously disrupted. More UK supermarkets are trying to reduce imports and get a year round supply of home grown products, Waitrose for one and I believe Aldi and Lidl are similar. The number of lambs available this winter will be far lower than normal with many ewe lambs being kept to breed from and if you look at the census figures the numbers to start with are lower. The number of lambs going into the EU are still significant and while we don't have any BCP's (Border Control Posts) in the EU yet we could set one up and ship lambs out alive to reduce pressure on slaughtering capacity here. Our illogical government haven't banned it yet!
Ewes I believe will get very dear as at present they are the cheapest red meat that you can buy. The best heavy ewes have hardly dropped in price at all and anything that someone hopes will breed again has been taken out of the killing to be tupped. Grazing ewes while a good price probably leave a better potential margin than store lambs, especially once the glut has gone which will be after the end of this month.
Once the pig market stabilizes then there will be less pork and it will be dearer unless we bring in more cheap pork and chicken from the USA!
If everything stayed the same then it would be very boring!
bloody hell your not painting a very good picture of you lambs if you expect tony to be bidding on them.
- Location
- Cheshire
- Location
- Hereford
I wish I could find some of these 'price crash ' markets that our Southern Correspondant talks about . .... no sign of it around here !!Well said
- Location
- Hereford
.....and a bigger worry this morning is that I can't find any mushrooms for my breakfast 
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
As posted previously, M&S have expanded their contract finishing operation this winter too.
I suspect the biggest retailer, Tesco, will be sourcing from the open market though.
- Location
- Dumfries & Galloway
bloody hell your not painting a very good picture of you lambs if you expect tony to be bidding on them.
You know how someone said yesterday or Friday about you could carry 1 lamb in each arm of their lambs...
You could maybe manage 2 under each arm of what I've got left
(they're still over 30kgs, mind! 
)But the trade is well up - they're worth as much as the good lambs were, 3 months ago
You have to turn left at cloud cuckoo land!
One of the small sales over here in the NI.
That was the dear one there was a lim landed with it the same weight for 100 less.
- Location
- Cheshire
Still looks a nice heifer
A lot of us folk in the hills are selling store instead of finishing hill lambs, trade is good, feed for us is more expensive so makes sense to send them in. Hope you boys have a good do on them and come back next year as it sure saves us a lot of work
cornishfarmer
Member
I’ve sold bullocks the last 3 weeks. Sucklers have held up. The dairy crosses fell by over £100 last week. Personally I think this is due to needing heavy feeding over winter
The two tier finished price between dairy x's and sucklerbred has widened and its showing more now in the store trade. Sucklerbred animals can return £300-400 more dead than dairy x's
No they haven't, they are and have been nowhere near enough
Unless you mean ridiculous as in way to cheap in which case I apologise and completely agree
- Location
- Northumberland
We're probably at the peak time of year for that differential, when quality cuts are in demand. It'll likely look different in the new year when the economy of commodity beef will come to the fore.
I know what you mean more than most, for the work and worry that goes into producing sucklerbred stock they ought to be more, but the finished price dictates and not the work involved.
Well moan that the finished price is ridiculous (as in way to low) then.
If Finished cattle were making up round 3 grand would anyone be saying that the weaned calf price was to high? No, well you now know what is ridiculous