Beef / Lamb & Pig Price Tracker

Werzle

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Location
Midlands
Interesting to read the Darlington marts fieldsmans thoughts on the lamb trade in the FW today, " By the time a £130 lamb has been transported and slaughtered the resulting 22kg of meat needs to be £250 ,otherwise the margin in beef and pork meat is better" No wonder lamb trade has cooled.
 

Oh bullocks

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Location
Yorkshire
Yes if they can get away with it, With people who only send a few every now and then. And pay bit more for people who send 50 a week!!
Still find it hard to believe. I've been quoted £4.12
Surely they can't offer £3.92 maybe a few pence difference but not that much. It's the final amount I get in the bank I'm more worried about. Live and deadweight both have their place.
 

Poorbuthappy

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Devon
Interesting to read the Darlington marts fieldsmans thoughts on the lamb trade in the FW today, " By the time a £130 lamb has been transported and slaughtered the resulting 22kg of meat needs to be £250 ,otherwise the margin in beef and pork meat is better" No wonder lamb trade has cooled.
Its what some of us have said several times, but we get shouted down as "talking the trade down"🙄
Its a lot less than 22kg meat your selling too.
We sell beef, lamb, chicken and pork direct. The lamb and chicken meets the most price resistance. But our chicken is very much premium end.
 
Location
Devon
Its what some of us have said several times, but we get shouted down as "talking the trade down"🙄
Its a lot less than 22kg meat your selling too.
We sell beef, lamb, chicken and pork direct. The lamb and chicken meets the most price resistance. But our chicken is very much premium end.
Interesting to read the Darlington marts fieldsmans thoughts on the lamb trade in the FW today, " By the time a £130 lamb has been transported and slaughtered the resulting 22kg of meat needs to be £250 ,otherwise the margin in beef and pork meat is better" No wonder lamb trade has cooled.
Not our problem if the supply chain after the farm gate has very high costs, they should do what EVERY other industry does ( with the exception of farming ) and that is pass these costs UP the chain and not down the chain back to farmers!
 
Location
Devon
Store lambs well back at Exeter today, most by at least a tenner a head, very few buyers around the store lamb pens.

Couple's i am told were a much stronger on the week!

Store cattle were an absolute nuts of a trade and could well be the dearest they have ever been at the market, very little under £1000 head worth buying and pen after pen £1300/1400/1500 head.
 
Interesting to read the Darlington marts fieldsmans thoughts on the lamb trade in the FW today, " By the time a £130 lamb has been transported and slaughtered the resulting 22kg of meat needs to be £250 ,otherwise the margin in beef and pork meat is better" No wonder lamb trade has cooled.
That sort of crack is no help to any of us. He’s on here. It’s just an excuse for the subsequent trade. He wouldn’t be saying that if it had gone 20p the other way. They were paying £3.00 live or just under for long enough last year around now. That’s before the money had devalued as much and before inputs had gone up on farms at least 20% but we shouldn’t mention that
 
I was told last year by a very reliable source that the processors/slaughterhouses could manage up to £3.00 live much over that things got tricky. Not sure what the calculation is this year but Everything has gone up so with that in mind it will be £3.00 or more now add inflation or include it whatever you decide but still not under that figure.
Maybe he should buy a few hundred pounds of fattening pellets per day or a bit of fert he would think again
 
They are always 20p behind rpf and have to pay haulage. And my lambs grade badly.
Funny that, I had lambs grade moderately there too and I wasn't the only one. Farm stock Scotland sent a delegation down to have a look. I was told that the regular grader seemed to overemphasise the importance of the shoulder, so anything with a moderate fore was an O grade, never mind what was behind it. Never mind it's meant to be an assessment of three areas and the shoulder is only 10% of the carcass value (I believe).
 
Funny that, I had lambs grade moderately there too and I wasn't the only one. Farm stock Scotland sent a delegation down to have a look. I was told that the regular grader seemed to overemphasise the importance of the shoulder, so anything with a moderate fore was an O grade, never mind what was behind it. Never mind it's meant to be an assessment of three areas and the shoulder is only 10% of the carcass value (I believe).
Wonder if that’s why father said a tup should have a leg on every corner?
 

andybk

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Mendips Somerset
Interesting to read the Darlington marts fieldsmans thoughts on the lamb trade in the FW today, " By the time a £130 lamb has been transported and slaughtered the resulting 22kg of meat needs to be £250 ,otherwise the margin in beef and pork meat is better" No wonder lamb trade has cooled.
Muslim/ Jewish market cant eat it though . i was wondering why a muslim family that followed me into burger king were ordering vegi / chicken food then i realised why , cost a fortune
 

Werzle

Member
Location
Midlands
Not our problem if the supply chain after the farm gate has very high costs, they should do what EVERY other industry does ( with the exception of farming ) and that is pass these costs UP the chain and not down the chain back to farmers!
I agree but three other auctioneers have also stated similiar thoughts, country needs to get going again with people eating out to lift lamb trade etc. Its all very well passing the cost onto the GP but if they stop buying it because its too dear then it gets passed back down too.
 

muleman

Member
That sort of crack is no help to any of us. He’s on here. It’s just an excuse for the subsequent trade. He wouldn’t be saying that if it had gone 20p the other way. They were paying £3.00 live or just under for long enough last year around now. That’s before the money had devalued as much and before inputs had gone up on farms at least 20% but we shouldn’t mention that
Was talking to a lad yesterday, his fert cost £16000 last year, it is going to be £55,000 this year when ge gets round to it, i dont think many of us have crossed that bridge yet!
If we use same amount of sheepfeed this winter it will come to £4000 more.
These costs are getting serious!
 

Werzle

Member
Location
Midlands
Store lambs well back at Exeter today, most by at least a tenner a head, very few buyers around the store lamb pens.

Couple's i am told were a much stronger on the week!

Store cattle were an absolute nuts of a trade and could well be the dearest they have ever been at the market, very little under £1000 head worth buying and pen after pen £1300/1400/1500 head.
Store cattle trade is serious everywhere, i thought perhaps numbers were short but whitland has almost 500 tomorrow and hereford has 600 on thursday so theres still a few about! If firms drop the beef price they will be lynched now
 
Location
Devon
Was talking to a lad yesterday, his fert cost £16000 last year, it is going to be £55,000 this year when ge gets round to it, i dont think many of us have crossed that bridge yet!
If we use same amount of sheepfeed this winter it will come to £4000 more.
These costs are getting serious!
Rep told me today that their new Fert price was out this morn and the price of N is now just shy of £800 tonne!
 

andybk

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Mendips Somerset
I agree but three other auctioneers have also stated similiar thoughts, country needs to get going again with people eating out to lift lamb trade etc. Its all very well passing the cost onto the GP but if they stop buying it because its too dear then it gets passed back down too.
lambs will take off again when european lockdowns end , lambs are mainly going into domestic trade now thats why heavies have taken a big hit .
 

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