Beet '22

DrWazzock

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Sand starting to go here despite min till and trash left on top. Just emerging. So that’s probably 4 acres going if it doesn’t die down soon. Oh well. Less to harvest.
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
What I did wrong was disced the stubbles in the autumn.
I should have just stuck to tried and tested stubble cultivator in spring followed by power Harrow then drill. It’s messier but it doesn’t blow.
It’ll be touch and go whether the crop gets going this year on about a third of my acreage due to wind blow. Just not enough trash on top and not ridgy enough. Tidiness doesn’t pay in this job.
 

alomy75

Member
What I did wrong was disced the stubbles in the autumn.
I should have just stuck to tried and tested stubble cultivator in spring followed by power Harrow then drill. It’s messier but it doesn’t blow.
It’ll be touch and go whether the crop gets going this year on about a third of my acreage due to wind blow. Just not enough trash on top and not ridgy enough. Tidiness doesn’t pay in this job.
Another frost here this morning too. Not a good start to this year’s crop. Certainly not upset I haven’t finished drilling yet (for once!)
 
same here or similar
subsoiler and coil after sheep
loads of moisture and maximum pressure on units to really firm it down
45 acre for neighbour we do have not even touched it yet
might get same treatment if he will let me he likes ploughing and germinator
does not think it will grow in stubble 🙈

Cripes alive, you have that as a seed bed, after grass, and all you have done is subsoil it?? Come on now. This is farming the stuff of dreams!
 
Cripes alive, you have that as a seed bed, after grass, and all you have done is subsoil it?? Come on now. This is farming the stuff of dreams!
no grass here was stubble turnips
some of this you could drag a thorn bush and bed stead over it and get tilth
just ld subsoiler at 7 k with coil on back and it , was plenty loose , did leave 24 m and go direct in
mulch drill will push it in
am just finding out if drill brain can be altered
and take wings and outer 6 boxes off and pull drill direct behind subsoiler
 
no grass here was stubble turnips
some of this you could drag a thorn bush and bed stead over it and get tilth
just ld subsoiler at 7 k with coil on back and it , was plenty loose , did leave 24 m and go direct in
mulch drill will push it in
am just finding out if drill brain can be altered
and take wings and outer 6 boxes off and pull drill direct behind subsoiler

With dirt like that, I'd be highly tempted to try direct drilling. Someone on the forum was using a rotovator and tempo combined to put maize in direct into previous stubbles/residues? Would work for beet surely?
 

alomy75

Member
no grass here was stubble turnips
some of this you could drag a thorn bush and bed stead over it and get tilth
just ld subsoiler at 7 k with coil on back and it , was plenty loose , did leave 24 m and go direct in
mulch drill will push it in
am just finding out if drill brain can be altered
and take wings and outer 6 boxes off and pull drill direct behind subsoiler
Just don’t put any seed in them 👍
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Another frost here this morning too. Not a good start to this year’s crop. Certainly not upset I haven’t finished drilling yet (for once!)

The stuff I drilled on 23rd March looks like a wind blown desert with just the odd plant emerged now struggling against another week of wind and frost. An awful start just like most years here in the dry cold windy east. It might come good, it very well might not. Last year anyway. Past bothering.
The spring direct drilled cereals look OK.👍
More grass and AB15 next year. Rebuild and rest soils and myself and my machinery. Just DD cereals, beans, OSR after that.
 
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alomy75

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The stuff I drilled on 23rd March looks like a wind blown desert with just the odd plant emerged now struggling against another week of wind and frost. An awful start just like most years here in the dry cold windy east. It might come good, it very well might not. Last year anyway. Past bothering.
The spring direct drilled cereals look OK.👍
More grass and AB9 next year. Rebuild and rest soils and myself and my machinery. Just DD cereals, beans, OSR after that.
I think there will be an awful lot of people doing the same with this being the final year of the 3yr contracts (if you extended them by a year like silly me).
 

alomy75

Member
Has anyone had any issues in previous years with Cercospora Leaf Spot on Sugarbeet? ... is the fungicide program targeting Cercospora or the focus is only on mildew and rust?
It’s becoming more of an issue; a lot year before last. Depends on your area though…we are predominantly rust in south lincs
 

Breckland Boy

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Breckland
Has anyone had any issues in previous years with Cercospora Leaf Spot on Sugarbeet? ... is the fungicide program targeting Cercospora or the focus is only on mildew and rust?

Has anyone had any issues in previous years with Cercospora Leaf Spot on Sugarbeet? ... is the fungicide program targeting Cercospora or the focus is only on mildew and rust?
We have quite bad infections primarily due to irrigation in warmer conditions.
The moisture and high temperatures create the perfect environment for cercospora development.
Fungicides are poor in general.
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
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what’s going on here?
A lot of cotyledons with blackened shrivelled leaf ends, some completely scorched off.
Wind erosion and frost or went too early with the second dose of nitrogen?
We did have some fairly sharp frosts but didn’t think it was that bad. Lost a few like it last year but this year seems much worse and it hasn’t been as frosty as last year but we did have some wind blow. Doesn’t look good. Could be a write off.
 

Rookie

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincs / Notts
I would have said a combination of sand blowing which has made them more susceptible to frost damage. I would have thought they will get over it if there is still part of the leaf / cotyledon left.
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
I would have said a combination of sand blowing which has made them more susceptible to frost damage. I would have thought they will get over it if there is still part of the leaf / cotyledon left.
I think you are right. Worst on rows that sit a bit high and exposed and caught the sand blow then the frost finished the job. Probably still be a crop but it’s spoilt some areas. Soddin beet!
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Question is would 240 kg/ha scorch emerging cotyledons to death.
I probably put it on slightly early with hindsight. I had finished doing the wheat, I looked in the beet field gate hole and saw some fully expanded cotyledons so I cracked on. Next morning it appeared the best establishment was in the gate hole where it was hard underneath, shallow drilled and wet. Rest of field seemed a bit behind in proper daylight. Oh well.
 

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