Beet '22

[robbie]

I bet the NFU sugar board are blowing each other off like never before.

I think bs have finally realised, it's taken them a bloody long time but at last they have.

 

[Flat 10]

I’m surprised none of you are angry about the head of British sugar being made an MBE…….
(Ps I don’t think it was anything to do with Nfu sugar but I’m not certain)

 

[DrWazzock]

I wonder if those wavy links are still on eBay?

 

[carbonfibre farmer]

I wonder if those wavy links are still on eBay?

Go on. Another year on the cyclone

 

[alomy75]

I wonder if those wavy links are still on eBay?

Les carter will have a box full

 

[alomy75]

I might just hang on for another year but I’ll never do the multi year again; seemed a good idea when we were doing 90t/ha. What else do I grow? I’ll cut my area by half though and carry on cutting costs where I can. Min till has been fine; may get someone in with a tempo and cut a couple passes.

 

[DrWazzock]

Les carter will have a box full

I’ll bet they’ve gone up as well!

 

[alomy75]

I’ll bet they’ve gone up as well!

I doubt it. If Les gets stuff cheap he sells it cheap. The price is the price but he will pass on bargains

 

[DrWazzock]

I might just hang on for another year but I’ll never do the multi year again; seemed a good idea when we were doing 90t/ha. What else do I grow? I’ll cut my area by half though and carry on cutting costs where I can. Min till has been fine; may get someone in with a tempo and cut a couple passes.

We leave stubbles over winter, use tramlines to apply lime, salt, base fert etc, spray off in spring, then heavy discs, paraplow, power Harrow towing roller, drill. Just about perfect here. We made the mistake of discoing some in the autumn and lost the vegetive cover provided by cereal volunteers. Disced in the spring was fine though.

 

[tullah]

Its 1980s prices with 2022/3 input prices. No thanks.

 

[robbie]

I’m surprised none of you are angry about the head of British sugar being made an MBE…….
(Ps I don’t think it was anything to do with Nfu sugar but I’m not certain)

I saw that.
If it is to do with the NFU I'd have to scratch my head long and hard to think why.

 

[Rookie]

Just over a year ago when beet was low £20's, There was a zoom meeting between lots of growers, British Sugar and NFU. At the time BS said that they were only making a £1/t profit on the beet and couldn't afford to pay a £1 more.
This year beet is £27 /t and next year £40 /t.
I think somebody was telling porkies. . Basically taking us all for mugs !!

 

[robbie]

Just over a year ago when beet was low £20's, There was a zoom meeting between lots of growers, British Sugar and NFU. At the time BS said that they were only making a £1 profit on the beet and couldn't afford to pay a £1 more.
This year beet is £27 /t and next year £40 /t.
I think somebody was telling porkies. . Basically taking us all for mugs !!

What rubbed me up the wrong way was when the area man was talking about the advanced payment and said it was a god idea and BS could offer it as "they(BS) were cash rich"!!!!

 

[farmerfred86]

Just over a year ago when beet was low £20's, There was a zoom meeting between lots of growers, British Sugar and NFU. At the time BS said that they were only making a £1/t profit on the beet and couldn't afford to pay a £1 more.
This year beet is £27 /t and next year £40 /t.
I think somebody was telling porkies. . Basically taking us all for mugs !!

Look at the world sugar price since 2020...

 

[alomy75]

Its 1980s prices with 2022/3 input prices. No thanks.

Pre the latest cereals price hike beet had a better GM than first wheats on a lot of farms; let alone the spring crops it should compete with. It’s just the weather and the soil damage that holds a lot of people back.

 

[alomy75]

Pre the latest cereals price hike beet had a better GM than first wheats on a lot of farms; let alone the spring crops it should compete with. It’s just the weather and the soil damage that holds a lot of people back.

And loss of seed trt

 

[Chris W]

Sounds better!

Shame we can’t commit to a crop until after the Rothamsted model has been completed.

I don’t think we can grow beet after mild winters anymore.

Agreed! Told my rep this morning that if they wanted a commitment before the derogation was granted there would have to be some break clauses in the contract.

Anyone had any figures for the yield guarantee yet ?

 

[Hindsight]

You all need to know in writing the terms of the Rothamsted Model to be used for 2022/23 winter. Last February the Rothamsted folk changed the threshold which made it more difficult to pass. Do not trust tricky Georgie Eustace to do the same trick again and make the seed treatment unattainable.

 

[Flat 10]

You all need to know in writing the terms of the Rothamsted Model to be used for 2022/23 winter. Last February the Rothamsted folk changed the threshold which made it more difficult to pass. Do not trust tricky Georgie Eustace to do the same trick again and make the seed treatment unattainable.

It was hardly rothamsteds fault or BS for that matter as you say that the poxy government makes up the rules as they go along.

 

[DrWazzock]

Its 1980s prices with 2022/3 input prices. No thanks.

Certainly inputs prices are up massively and to refurbish my machine will take the rest of the increase. Not knocking the offer. But I kind of keeps us where we were, rather than being a bonanza. That seems to be the way of farming though. Just forked out £750 for a new silencer box for my tractor. I paid that for a haybob a couple of years back.