Beet growers have a neonic seed treatment for 2021

Daniel

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The MD of British Sugar has no desire to speak publically to growers as usual, not even a member of the Sugar Board.

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robbie

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BASIS
The whole job, tell them to stick there 3 year deal. Sadly until we get nasty about the situation nothing is going to change. We all know the NFU are a shower and won't really do anything and it's only a matter of time before growers take matters into there own hands.
 

Flat 10

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Arable Farmer
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Fen Edge
The whole job, tell them to stick there 3 year deal. Sadly until we get nasty about the situation nothing is going to change. We all know the NFU are a shower and won't really do anything and it's only a matter of time before growers take matters into there own hands.
Well I can’t think anyone is signing new 3 year deals but IMO it’s wrong to walk away from 3 year deals already signed.
 

teslacoils

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Lincolnshire
Well I can’t think anyone is signing new 3 year deals but IMO it’s wrong to walk away from 3 year deals already signed.

If nothing had changed then fair enough. But access to treated seed was removed; untreated seed was tried; it didn't do the job in a lot of cases. It's like signing up for 10 yellow jumpers but after getting five the yellow dye is banned, then being made to accept blue jumpers because....well, they're still jumpers.
 

Flat 10

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Arable Farmer
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Fen Edge
If nothing had changed then fair enough. But access to treated seed was removed; untreated seed was tried; it didn't do the job in a lot of cases. It's like signing up for 10 yellow jumpers but after getting five the yellow dye is banned, then being made to accept blue jumpers because....well, they're still jumpers.
Disagree. I knew it was a risk when I signed. Have to suck it up.
 

Sonoftheheir

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Arable Farmer
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West Suffolk
We knew neonics were banned, so the risk must have been factored into people’s thoughts about signing multi year deals. The first year without them was probably one of our best yielding years. Obviously this past year was our worst, will this year be somewhere between the two?
 

robbie

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The 3 year deal should never have been signed by any grower and shouldn't have been allowed by NFU. BS give it all the usual old fanny of allowing growers to plan and have security for 3 years blah blah blah but all it did was to make BS hand stronger and undermine the NFU.

Why would bs offer better money when they had give or take 50% CTE secured for 3 years at a shite price. From there point of view they had people signing and happy at that price so why would they need to up it.

I also think that it is exceptable to walk away, you bet your life if the tables had turned BS would have found a way to wriggle out or atleast sweeten it In there favour.
The who dynamics of beet growing has changed since the introduction of the 3 year deal, virus yellow, cercospora, lost of desmedipham ect and as such I don't see how it can continue on the original terms.
 

ajd132

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Arable Farmer
Location
Suffolk
sounds like a heated debate last night at the regional forum.
Have a number of growers refused to honour the multi year contracts?
Apparently BS let slip they have been slicing fodder beet but making people take stuff that hasn’t been harvest to wissington and not bury!
 

Flat 10

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Arable Farmer
Location
Fen Edge
Apparently BS let slip they have been slicing fodder beet but making people take stuff that hasn’t been harvest to wissington and not bury!
I don’t understand. Wissy has been shut ages and bury stuff is now going to cantley. You mean bury is still open for fodder beet?!?!
 

Flat 10

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Arable Farmer
Location
Fen Edge
The 3 year deal should never have been signed by any grower and shouldn't have been allowed by NFU. BS give it all the usual old fanny of allowing growers to plan and have security for 3 years blah blah blah but all it did was to make BS hand stronger and undermine the NFU.

Why would bs offer better money when they had give or take 50% CTE secured for 3 years at a shite price. From there point of view they had people signing and happy at that price so why would they need to up it.

I also think that it is exceptable to walk away, you bet your life if the tables had turned BS would have found a way to wriggle out or atleast sweeten it In there favour.
The who dynamics of beet growing has changed since the introduction of the 3 year deal, virus yellow, cercospora, lost of desmedipham ect and as such I don't see how it can continue on the original terms.
That’s your opinion 👍 but fact is it was offered and signed. BS didn’t make anyone sign. I agree price is nowhere near high enough given all 3 factors you listed.
 

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