Beet spray quick question

[Will 1594]

Spray or drill at an angle ,put you own tramlines in ,then you dont waste a row ,if you wander ,makes no odds lifting either ,run down ours with 580- s

 

[Brisel]

Does that make the harvester driver curse?

 

[Will 1594]

Does that make the harvester driver curse?

Two harvester drivers ,our own 3 row ,me ,and mike russell lifts other farm , he got us to do it , , seems to work ok ,but he can alter depth on each lifting unit on the move ,if need be ,

 

[traineefarmer]

Two harvester drivers ,our own 3 row ,me ,and mike russell lifts other farm , he got us to do it , , seems to work ok ,but he can alter depth on each lifting unit on the move ,if need be ,

I'd be surprised if you didn't get broken or missed roots when crossing the tramlines, caused by the harvester rocking. We get this on headlands with our 3-row when crossing the tramline ends, but drive a little deeper to compensate. It would seem to me that you would need to run the harvester deeper than it needs to be across quite a lot of the field rather than just the affected tramlines.

 

[Will 1594]

I'd be surprised if you didn't get broken or missed roots when crossing the tramlines, caused by the harvester rocking. We get this on headlands with our 3-row when crossing the tramline ends, but drive a little deeper to compensate. It would seem to me that you would need to run the harvester deeper than it needs to be across quite a lot of the field rather than just the affected tramlines.

Your quite welcome to come look when lifting and satisfy your curiosity

 

[alomy75]

Do the beet you run on completely disappear by harvest? I worry about running on beet as mine tend to rot but not disappear...sugars will be very low in these beet and if these get picked up by the sample bucket at the factory, before you know it you have 3 loads paid for based on 30 odd beet in a bucket, couple of rotten ones soon makes a difference

 

[alomy75]

Looking better now but a few gaps...I’m running 87-90% emergence this year. Normally 90-95

 

[traineefarmer]

They're looking very clean. We have similar emergence, but struggling to keep weeds under control this year. The pre-ems seem to have failed completely.

 

[alomy75]

Interestingly I haven’t sprayed anything on that yet apart from fert! What weeds have you got? My only-as-a-last-resort, fire engine mix is maxxpro goltix venzar debut oil @ 1.5 1 0.4 20g 1; knocks the beet but if the weeds are really bad there’s not much that will get away from that. Otherwise it’s tractor hoe time!

 

[traineefarmer]

I'm no agronomist, so my weed ID is quite poor. But we have some fat hen, blackgrass and field pansies along with volunteer potatoes on some fields.

We used some old stock Pyramin on some fields and Goltix on others pre-em - the pyramin seems to have been more effective, shame it has been withdrawn. Followed by Goltix-Maxxpro-oil, followed by the same again + debut. It's working, but the beet aren't too happy and still lots of green between the rows.

 

[alomy75]

I'm no agronomist, so my weed ID is quite poor. But we have some fat hen, blackgrass and field pansies along with volunteer potatoes on some fields.

We used some old stock Pyramin on some fields and Goltix on others pre-em - the pyramin seems to have been more effective, shame it has been withdrawn. Followed by Goltix-Maxxpro-oil, followed by the same again + debut. It's working, but the beet aren't too happy and still lots of green between the rows.

That should be fine but you will need shield or vivendi for the tates and centurion max for the blackgrass. Shield can go with maxxpro but the centurion will have to go on it’s own with ideally a decent gap before you apply anything else (label is 10 or 14 days from memory) but I know ‘people’ who have gone on 5 days later...[emoji23]

 

[traineefarmer]

We're giving them some manganese between herbicides to heal the beet. The dry weather isn't helping.

 

[DrWazzock]

I need to be out with the tractor hoe to kill some mature field pansies that the predrilling glyphosate missed. Not many of them but they bush out. Hand hoed five acres and it looks a lot better. Only a couple of acres affected.

Otherwise it's had 1.25 max pro then another 1.25 plus 1 Goltix and is fairly clean.

 

[DrWazzock]

We're giving them some manganese between herbicides to heal the beet. The dry weather isn't helping.

Beet is always slow to get going but this year very slow. 7 weeks since drilling and just 4 true leaves. Temperature extremes, wind, dry, and insect attack stresses it, then it gets a blast of herbicide every fortnight, just when it's getting going.

But once it attains a sort of critical mass it should motor. I go alternately with trace elements to help it. I tried some micro top which has a bit of boron in it as well as mostly Mg and a bit of Mn and it greened it up more than just the normal MgMn mix.

 

[radar]

I need to be out with the tractor hoe to kill some mature field pansies that the predrilling glyphosate missed. Not many of them but they bush out. Hand hoed five acres and it looks a lot better. Only a couple of acres affected.

Otherwise it's had 1.25 max pro then another 1.25 plus 1 Goltix and is fairly clean.

Hand hoeing beet is a sight not seen very often these days. Don't grow beet now but always a daunting sight as you went into a 50 acre field with not many hands!

 

[alomy75]

Any of the seaweed extract snake oils are reckoned to be pretty good at improving stressed crops.

 

[Flat 10]

I put mn and mg in with the herbs....
Today sniper (poor mans maxxpro minus venzar) and half rate debut. One field with low weed pressure and really struggling will have trace els only

 

[DrWazzock]

My sprayer can't seem to cope with mineral powders with 015 jets. I spray the beet at 100 litres per ha for herbicides, 173 litres with 04 jets for minerals.

 

[DrWazzock]

Hand hoeing beet is a sight not seen very often these days. Don't grow beet now but always a daunting sight as you went into a 50 acre field with not many hands!

Indeed. I haven't a hope of covering the whole 20 acres myself not that it all needs it, but just do the problem areas as I find its a good place to get away from it all! Therapeutic going down the rows, listening to the skylarks with a good sharp hoe. Concentrate where there might have been a partially blocked jet or wide wheeling, that kind of thing. Satisfying to see a row of dead weeds on a hot day.

 

[Bury the Trash]

Indeed. I haven't a hope of covering the whole 20 acres myself not that it all needs it, but just do the problem areas as I find its a good place to get away from it all! Therapeutic going down the rows, listening to the skylarks with a good sharp hoe. Concentrate where there might have been a partially blocked jet or wide wheeling, that kind of thing. Satisfying to see a row of dead weeds on a hot day.

I remember someone hoeing ...who used to wear a coat with a deep pocket with a transitor radio in it .... listening to the cricket.