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Beet, what am I doing wrong?

Discussion in 'Cropping' started by Colin, Nov 14, 2017 at 5:59 PM.

  1. Colin

    Colin Member

    Location:
    Perthshire
    Growing beet for AD, finished harvest today, last year averaged about 60t/ha this year about 65, use the rb209 rates for p, k etc, sylvinite for salt, fibrophos for the rest of the base, plough it down and use liquid NS on top, up the N to 150 as no need to worry about impurities. Sow early April at 100,000/ha, keep the weeds out, use two fungicides and foliar feed it B, mg, MN.
    Any ideas why we are struggling to get yield. The best ground is doing 70, which makes it an ok crop. I used a higher seed rate last year and the beet were very small so cut it back this season.
    Any suggestions welcome.
     
  2. Brisel

    Brisel Member

    Location:
    Dorset
    Weed control? Any disease? Any fungicides? How good was the establishment?
     
  3. static

    static Member

    Location:
    Lincoln-ish.
    Sunshine and heat?
     
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  4. spin cycle

    spin cycle Member

    Location:
    north norfolk
    get soil tested by fert company and get 'tailor made' seedbed blend.....other than that :scratchhead:..harvester losses?
     
  5. Colin

    Colin Member

    Location:
    Perthshire
    Nice and clean for weeds, leaves were green until harvest, two escolta used. I should have got a leaf tissue done.
     
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  6. phil

    phil Member

    Location:
    Wexford
    Why plough down fert
    Surely better incorporated?
     
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  7. Colin

    Colin Member

    Location:
    Perthshire
    I get the soil tested then use straights or fibrophos, correct pH as well. Use trace elements.
     
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  8. spin cycle

    spin cycle Member

    Location:
    north norfolk
    salt?
     
  9. Colin

    Colin Member

    Location:
    Perthshire
    I think this is a lot of it, we could maybe sow earlier but what about a late frost at establishment?
    The better fields had to be irrigated to get germination, but the two middle of the road fields had excellent establishment without irrigation but are very light.
    To be fair the 70t fields give me hope for the future.
     
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  10. marshfarmer

    marshfarmer Member

    Location:
    Norfolk
    More seed and muck oh and lift in Feb
     
  11. Colin

    Colin Member

    Location:
    Perthshire
    Chicken litter
     
  12. Wonky

    Wonky New Member

    There's a thread on here recently about beet yields, is there much difference in AD varieties to conventional?? There has been some massive yields reported for conventional crop this season
     
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  13. Throw chicken muck at it.

    The main issue with beet in my area this year was the drought beginning just as it was drilled.

    Get the land for beet ploughed early and let the weather do the work.

    If you had a serious trace element issue with beet you would have seen symptoms somewhere, they are normally very obvious.
     
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  14. Colin

    Colin Member

    Location:
    Perthshire
    Light silty land that slumps so.plough and press in march.
     
  15. Colin

    Colin Member

    Location:
    Perthshire
    I don't know they are high DM so I assume not much different. Hard to find comparative yields between varieties as well.
     
  16. what is your target yield?
     
  17. Flat 10

    Flat 10 Member

    Location:
    Fen Edge
    I don't think you are doing much wrong. Higher seed rate. Does the harvester driver know what he's doing? As I blather on every time you have a query can you view BBRO work on line (perhaps not as you won't be a levy payer will you) or steal someones copy of the beet growers guide. When you drilling? Difficult for us in East Anglia to judge how it compares to our 'typical' springs.
     
  18. Flat 10

    Flat 10 Member

    Location:
    Fen Edge
    Sorry just read properly. Does early april correlate to early mid march down here? I don't know.
     
  19. Wonky

    Wonky New Member

    i'm guessing your tonnage is a clean washed tonnage, if it's AD crop? Lot of people talk adjusted tonnage for conventional varieties, if they've got high sugar % can make a huge difference to tonnage talk!
     
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  20. Flat 10

    Flat 10 Member

    Location:
    Fen Edge
    Also a lot of people include B with the base fertiliser rather than foliar spraying as demands are high but deficiency should be easy to spot......
    What was your establishment like? Guess it should be good with irrigation. And as @marshfarmer says lift later.
     

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