our reps are crap . but they do look good in thier nfu sugar fleeces , i bet they have bsc ones at home.I heard today that after Christmas the factories are going to cut there daily slice as low as possible to prolong the campaign to allow growers the best possible chance to send beet that are either stuck on fields or heaps that are inaccessible to machinery.
Apparently this is because BS are desperately short of sugar and are already looking to import cane sugar to make up the short fall!!!!
A few questions came to mind.
-why arent NFUs telling BS that it's there own fault and all they need to do is pay a fair price for beet. The growers are out there just not at the current price.
- why isnt it being rubbed into the face of government and the like of monbiot that because of the loss of noenics BS are now being forced to import sugar from the far reaches of the world to make up the short fall, what carbon foot print does that have and to what standards has it been grown too. I bet if wont have a QA sticker on it when it arives here!!!!!!
Id say with only 80% odd of growers committed to grow next year, coupled with a producer who is short and with the prospects of no deal and corona making it harder and more exensive to import goods into the uk, If there was ever a time that our reresentative had a strong hand to play itll be now but i guess knowing how weak they are theyll be more likely to take a price cut to help BS throught these difficult times!!!!
Beet yields 2020
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Mixedupfarmer
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- Norfolk
No but it is largely pointless
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- Bury St Edmunds
Exactly the same here. We lifted 18 ha pre Xmas that was delivered 30th Dec, all below 15% sugar with adjusted yield of 49.8t/ha. Still have 17 ha to lift, they will be worse.
BB
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- Lincs / Notts
I see that 3 factories have only just processed 50% of cte, with wissington only having done 40%. BS are definitely going to be well down on tonnage as there won't be 50% left on pads or in fields.
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- Essex
British Sugar/ NFUSugar and BBRO seem to be fixated on Virus Yellows to the point that Cercospora is being overlooked.
searching on the internet this morning North Dakota State University regards it as the most devastating of the foliar diseases of Beet. It adversely impacts the photosynthetic capacity of plants and reduces yield; the disease also results in higher impurities in the juice which reduces sucrose extraction. Now that this disease is very well established we will have the conditions for earlier infection in the next crop, yet as far as I know we do not have one, let alone a choice of fungicides to control it.
searching on the internet this morning North Dakota State University regards it as the most devastating of the foliar diseases of Beet. It adversely impacts the photosynthetic capacity of plants and reduces yield; the disease also results in higher impurities in the juice which reduces sucrose extraction. Now that this disease is very well established we will have the conditions for earlier infection in the next crop, yet as far as I know we do not have one, let alone a choice of fungicides to control it.
I agree. From reading I did mancozeb(not legal and imminently banned i think) has an effect as does copper which I might try next year. It's barely worth using a fungicide is it, if the have no effect on the main disease? Or do we just risk getting mildew and rust in addition?!
davidroberts30
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- pembrokeshire
escatla is labelled as controlling cercosopra but how effective it is i don't know
- Location
- Essex
... Infected plants produce new leaves which may also become infected in favorable conditions. Loss of mature leaves and growth of new leaves result in significant reduction in root yield and recoverable sucrose (Shane and Teng 1992;Khan and Smith 2005) and increase concentration of impurities such as amino nitrogen, potassium, sodium, and betaine (Carrathures and Oldfield 1961;Smith and Martin 1978;Rossi et al. 2000) which increases processing costs (Smith and Ruppel 1973). In the absence of control measures, losses in recoverable sucrose as high as 54 % have been reported in inoculated trials (Khan and Smith 2005;Khan et al. 2008;Shane and Teng 1992). ..
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- Essex
Not a new problem in many areas of the world, yet our industry was utterly unprepared and unable to counter the problem, due to the inflexible governance structure that has developed within Europe over the postwar period.
- Location
- the brecks norfolk
I put copper in with my fungicides and although the sugars have dropped from earlier in the season i dont seem to have the cercospora that many nieghbouring fields have so may be,just maybe i got something right for a change.
Thanks for being the guinea pig I will now order my supplies.....
How much copper did you put in and in what form please?
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- the brecks norfolk
I will have to look it up but i think it was 0.25lt/ha twice. It was headland liquid copper
Mixedupfarmer
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- Norfolk
Seem to be a lot of difference between varieties here, has any work been done on varietal resistance?
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- Essex
There seems to be work in the US and Germany. I don’t know whether we have the same varieties as the latter area.
o looked up BBRO and lifted this response from one of their more recent publications:
We don’t have consistent information of varietal susceptibility to cercospora but differences were observed last season so check different varieties carefully for this disease. Key symptoms of initial leaf infection to watch out for: regular circular spots with necrotic, tan-grey centres and reddish-brown borders. If the disease develops unchecked, these spots can coalesce into larger brown necrotic areas on the leaf. The photo shows the range of symptoms.
One would hope BBRO will have had an opportunity to look at varieties and susceptibility to Cercospora this Autumn/Winter.
o looked up BBRO and lifted this response from one of their more recent publications:
We don’t have consistent information of varietal susceptibility to cercospora but differences were observed last season so check different varieties carefully for this disease. Key symptoms of initial leaf infection to watch out for: regular circular spots with necrotic, tan-grey centres and reddish-brown borders. If the disease develops unchecked, these spots can coalesce into larger brown necrotic areas on the leaf. The photo shows the range of symptoms.
One would hope BBRO will have had an opportunity to look at varieties and susceptibility to Cercospora this Autumn/Winter.
All varieties here affected by Virus Yellows but Gauguin has been far worse affected by Cercospora than Flixter or Degas.
Elemental probably.
Edit but probably not very much
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- South Lincolnshire
Just had an email from my area manager saying neonics approved. No further details.
Hindsight
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- Lincolnshire
Neonicotinoid product as seed treatment for sugar beet: emergency authorisation application 2024
The Minister for Food, Farming and Fisheries grants conditional emergency authorisation to use a product containing a neonicotinoid to treat seeds for the 2024 sugar beet seed crop in England.