Honest john
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- Location
- Fenland
Had a bit of odd seed kicking about.
Beet yields 2020
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- Location
- Lincolnshire
I drove back from Lincoln along the cliff road, and there is a field of beet just before the Tillbridge Lane junction south of the "lookout" which is completely yellow. Never seen anything like it as it looks in every other respect perfectly normal. Just looks like the leaves are ripe bananas with a bit of Dutch football top in for good measure.
we started lifting fodder beet today and im glad ive not got aquota to fil they are crap. 45 years of growing sugar and fodder beet and they i think they are the worst other than 1976. we have always been proud to grow good crops if we cant do better, fodder beet will go the same way sugar beet did , ps its wet as well.
- Location
- West Suffolk
Yes, ours are the worst beet I’ve ever seen here.
- Location
- Lincs / Notts
Infected fields of beet seem to be turning really yellow now the weather is cooling down Dont know if they will have enough top to protect from frost. Also not convinced they are going to keep growing.?
In this weeks Yellow peril, the article on beet, BS agricultural manager is estimating that between a 1/4 and a 1/3 of the beet crop has been infected with the virus. I beg to differ, as in the Newark area I would say the vast majority of fields are infected.
Do they not go out and look.?
Seem's to put most of the issues of poor performance down to drought, which would make growers stick with the crop as next year cant be as bad. I agree that drought was a major issue but virus yellows is having a big impact to.
In this weeks Yellow peril, the article on beet, BS agricultural manager is estimating that between a 1/4 and a 1/3 of the beet crop has been infected with the virus. I beg to differ, as in the Newark area I would say the vast majority of fields are infected.
Do they not go out and look.?
Seem's to put most of the issues of poor performance down to drought, which would make growers stick with the crop as next year cant be as bad. I agree that drought was a major issue but virus yellows is having a big impact to.
- Location
- West Suffolk
IMO it’s 100% down to the virus, we normally still do well in drought years. Yes we had some establishment problems with some beet coming up 2-3 wks later, but they still came up, but they got virus too. I sprayed 3 times with little effect. The beet root has just not grown, this causes high dirt tare in a wet year as they just don’t clean up well and you probably end up with a 1/2 soil to beet ratio. There was never enough top to produce the sugar.
If this plays out the same next year then beet are not viable anymore. Not unless they either pay more for beet or lower the sugar percentage required.
If this plays out the same next year then beet are not viable anymore. Not unless they either pay more for beet or lower the sugar percentage required.
Hindsight
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- Location
- Lincolnshire
Ask the BS agricultural manager about the 2018 drought year. That year national crop was large but drought widespread and more severe. And there were establishment difficulties as well. The difference - well crops gained canopy and good quality green canopy combined with a good autumn weather. So afraid our B man has some selective memory difficulties I fear. hey ho.
- Location
- the brecks norfolk
Bs are either burying there heads in the sand or they have some hidden agenda and dont want to say the virus has done the damage and we need neonics.
Beet have always done well in drought years, a long season crop if they're hit with drought in summer they have all autumn to make up which they always do to some extent.
This year the canopies were stunted and yellowed, both factors which limit sunlight interception and yield.
The recent article in the yellow bullpoo weekly is no better than the article they published at harvest about the chap with 15t/ha wheat crop when most where nearly 10t/ha less. The people featured may be doing well but it doesnt reflect the average grower it just makes the polititions and the general public believe everything is rosy and why would we need neonics.
Beet have always done well in drought years, a long season crop if they're hit with drought in summer they have all autumn to make up which they always do to some extent.
This year the canopies were stunted and yellowed, both factors which limit sunlight interception and yield.
The recent article in the yellow bullpoo weekly is no better than the article they published at harvest about the chap with 15t/ha wheat crop when most where nearly 10t/ha less. The people featured may be doing well but it doesnt reflect the average grower it just makes the polititions and the general public believe everything is rosy and why would we need neonics.
- Location
- West Suffolk
I can not understand how these far from average/normal yields keep being reported in such magazines, it just doesn’t reflect the true picture. What is the point???
And like you say why are BS oblivious to the real situation? I spoke to my fieldsman a couple of wks back and he seemed suprised on what I thought about our crop.
And like you say why are BS oblivious to the real situation? I spoke to my fieldsman a couple of wks back and he seemed suprised on what I thought about our crop.
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Fake news.
Fake newspaper.
Fakers Weekly.
Fake newspaper.
Fakers Weekly.
Honest john
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- Location
- Fenland
Mine are worse than yours, but no worries Mr Gove Ex Defra Minister Is going to top up the money.
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Beet is a complete lottery now like OSR. Just depends whether you get an influx of aphids/beetles, Not much you can do about it.
We always needed a bit of luck in farming but it’s gone too far and I can’t afford to gamble such high inputs on such an uncertain outcome on these crops, hence I’m out for the time being.
Are the politicians bothered? Not in the slightest. They have moved on to wreck something else.
We always needed a bit of luck in farming but it’s gone too far and I can’t afford to gamble such high inputs on such an uncertain outcome on these crops, hence I’m out for the time being.
Are the politicians bothered? Not in the slightest. They have moved on to wreck something else.
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Worst of it is folks will be lathering on spray borne insecticides next year as they are on OSR now probably to limited effect but indiscriminately killing a wide range of beneficial insects.
All as a result of disastrous ill informed populist policy makers. Why aren’t they being held to account instead of self congratulating those growers who got lucky with an I’m alright Jack attitude to those who didn’t?
All as a result of disastrous ill informed populist policy makers. Why aren’t they being held to account instead of self congratulating those growers who got lucky with an I’m alright Jack attitude to those who didn’t?
Honest john
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- Location
- Fenland
Yes FW should be helping influence Gov.
Not hunting out a rare for 2020, Green beet field.
have just calculated it the cold light of dayToday’s returns are sadly worse,2nd field av dirty up 2.5% sugar down 1.5%
Beet has struck breakeven at current returns .
- Location
- West Suffolk
You are the lucky one!
If my haulier hasn’t got more to take in from our clamp, then we are in for a 50% reduction in yield from our first field.
If my haulier hasn’t got more to take in from our clamp, then we are in for a 50% reduction in yield from our first field.
Don’t panic there’s probably another 20 load there yet