Belepi In the Shed?

[Ebbage Seeds]

Hi, its been a while since I posted, but I am keen to hear where Belepi is in growers harvesting regime.
A lot of regular Belepi growers use the variety as a following crop after roots, or maize, but this is overlooking its best drilling position which is October/early Nov. With recent rains turning 2017 'early harvest' into 'anything but' October-drilled Belepi is harvested and safe in the shed, while other varieties - some drilled earlier, are still in the field and in many cases, more horizontal than vertical. One grower also commented that while Belepi looked 'leggy' in the field it nevertheless stayed standing while others have now gone down.
There is a lot of talk about the RL varieties but I would be keen to hear how Belepi is fairing? Thanks - I know I will always get a frank response hear!!

 

[Oilseed]

We grew Belepi as a third crop, drilled mid October on sharp gravel, yielded 3 t/ac with very low inputs. Harvested 17th July.

 

[willy]

My October drilled bleeped is still in the field

 

[Flat 10]

Spring belepi on a neighbours. March drilled after spuds. Looked fantastic early on but looks a bit ragged now and is turning very quickly, will be a lot earlier to harvest than most spring wheat. Nice big ears but I think its only had one fungicide which probably hasn't helped it to hang on like it should have. Sorry that was no concrete information. But on the basis of how it looked I might try a bit after late lifted beet.......

 

[Wombat]

My late March drilled stuff got checked by the dry April so is a little behind. I recon it's 5 weeks from harvest

 

[turbo]

My early November drilling is still in the field but it looks a fair crop with big heads and nice looking grain,if we hadn't just had nearly 3weeks of unsettled weather it would of been cut by now.providing it yields okay I will grow more and replace winter barley because it's done the job I wanted from it in controlling bg better

 

[e3120]

Timely thread as I'm considering Belepi as an alternative to WB as a 3rd crop. No problems with WB (Glacier) as just taken a smidge over 4t off field next door to candidate field, but this one will be punchier still so seems to make sense to take a 2nd wheat off it. Earlier harvest would suit well as grass will be going back in behind it.

Land is heavy and northern - this is mid-Sept drilling territory. How early could I drill the Belepi? Am I likely to be any better off than with a decent crop of WB? Both grain & straw will stay at home.

 

[Ebbage Seeds]

Timely thread as I'm considering Belepi as an alternative to WB as a 3rd crop. No problems with WB (Glacier) as just taken a smidge over 4t off field next door to candidate field, but this one will be punchier still so seems to make sense to take a 2nd wheat off it. Earlier harvest would suit well as grass will be going back in behind it.

Land is heavy and northern - this is mid-Sept drilling territory. How early could I drill the Belepi? Am I likely to be any better off than with a decent crop of WB? Both grain & straw will stay at home.

Well of course it is unigue in being the only winter wheat that is regarded as a spring wheat for the 3 crop rule as long as you are in Northumberland and not Berwickshire.
We are starting to assess it for late September drilling, but to date only stand by the recommendation of drilling from 1st October - it needs to be drilled on the winter side of the autumn equinox. Weather patterns being what they are, working on precise calendar dates may be a bit unrealistic. The gentleman I need to come in on this conversation is Mr Bowron from Middleton in Darlington (dont know his 'handle'). He is on very heavy land and grows Belepi as a min-tilled second wheat, drilling (hopefully) 1st October. He had 5t/ac off it two years ago and got it away for biscuit up into Berwick with a premium.

 

[Wombat]

I like Belepi seems to grow well and yield ok, this year I will be a bit down as it got punished by 3mm in April. In my opinion drill it closer to standard rates than the ones recommended if you are on anything but light tatty land

 

[Ebbage Seeds]

I like Belepi seems to grow well and yield ok, this year I will be a bit down as it got punished by 3mm in April. In my opinion drill it closer to standard rates than the ones recommended if you are on anything but light tatty land

Wouldn't generally agree with that comment to be honest, but I would not argue individual's comments about their own land - you know best on your land. However, majority of Belepi growers drilling October through to Feb that I regulalry talk to, would say that a reduced sowing rate of 10 - 15% is about right and when drilling really early sowing rates can be reduced noticeably as long as you use the right seed treatment for the conditions and be realistic on % field loss.

 

[colhonk]

Still in the field. Hopefully not for much longer.

 

[gorgous]

My October drilled bleeped is still in the field

Same here does look fit to cut but trying to get my oats in first.

 

[turbo]

Hopefully having a go today weather permitting

 

[willy]

Same here does look fit to cut but trying to get my oats in first.

Yes I have been battling flat s barley

 

[turbo]

Just tried it 18%+ so it can wait a bit longer,but it's yielding well 3.5+ t/acre

 

[turbo]

Just cut my belepi and to be honest I am disappointed,the bit I cut yesterday was running at about 3.5t/acre but today's has been all over the place,to thin on the strong land and I think it's ended up at about 3t/acre. I will try again this year but keep the seed rate up on strong land and if it turns wet rather than waiting to drill it with the vardestad I will plough it and combi drill it

 

[Wombat]

Just cut my belepi and to be honest I am disappointed,the bit I cut yesterday was running at about 3.5t/acre but today's has been all over the place,to thin on the strong land and I think it's ended up at about 3t/acre. I will try again this year but keep the seed rate up on strong land and if it turns wet rather than waiting to drill it with the vardestad I will plough it and combi drill it

What was your seed rate

 

[turbo]

What was your seed rate

Without looking back I think it was around 180 kg/ha

 

[willy]

Have to say yet again it's disappointed, thiS year I gave it a good chance 1st wheat. Didn't like the drought on light land( which it says it likes) looked fantastic but won't be giving it another chance!

 

[Ebbage Seeds]

Have to say yet again it's disappointed, thiS year I gave it a good chance 1st wheat. Didn't like the drought on light land( which it says it likes) looked fantastic but won't be giving it another chance!

OK, thanks. Useful feedback.