best drill to start with

[clod h]

what would be the best drill for us to start dd on heavy silt land was thinking about claydon straw would be chopped cropping would be ww wb sb osr ww

 

[Clive]

Do you want to dd or strip till ?

I would plan rotation and agronomy especially nutrition first and then look for a drill

 

[clod h]

Do you want to dd or strip till ?

I would plan rotation and agronomy especially nutrition first and then look for a drill

 

[Clive]

You need more break crops in your rotation to make it work IMO or is sb spring beans not spring barley ?

How many ac do you have to get over, what hp do you have and do you want 1 drill to do all crops ?

Also what's your budget ?

 

[clod h]

not sure which would be best I like the striptill but not large row width we have huge blackgrass prob so I prefer close rows would a moor drill be best

 

[Clive]

not sure which would be best I like the striptill but not large row width we have huge blackgrass prob so I prefer close rows would a moor drill be best

If you have BG I would be looking for as little soil disturbance from the drill as possible = a disc drill but also a lot more hardcore change in your mindset to make it work as well !

Short of a million $ cross slot a JD 750a is the best option if your budget stretches to one or a Moore if you want to spend less but compromise a bit

I wood look to drop the 2nd ww from your rotation, it will cause issues for a disc drill sometimes (hair pinning ). Could you not go wb, osr,ww,sb,

 

[clod h]

thanks clive we could alter rotation as u suggested not got megar money to spend but need to reduce overheads we have just had 30% rent increase and need to change our system we have 230acr and do contracting tractor is fendt 718 will soon be 720

 

[clod h]

what is the pro an cons of the moor drills

 

[BSH]

Sim Tech drill? Versatile small drill that I felt was a good entry drill into DD on a small farm. It also meant I have the opportunity to do some contract drilling for wild bird plots and grass overseeding. Something to consider.

 

[stroller]

What is the sim tech like drilling into cover crops?

 

[Richard III]

What is the sim tech like drilling into cover crops?

Drills into green cover no problem, the front discs cut through it easily.

The only thing the drill doesn't like is long straw.

 

[Elmsted]

Moore do not make drills for serious arable any longer. The sumo is not a Moore. Either find a secondhand Moore last generation before they sold to Sumo. Or get a John Deere. Or if your pocket is deep enough get a cross slot. DD is a word with broad implications. From strip cats type stuff through to seed hawk tines to a JD. My personal view which ain't worth more than sh** is establishing a crop post harvest or destruction of a previous crop with the minimum soil disturbance. In general terms this ( If a valid idea) means you is stuck with disc based kit. Of those on market for non spring row cropping. There exists JD and cross slot.

For strip tilling you is spoilt for choice. But as Clive points out and York and no end of others to get DD to work with mother nature the choice of planter/drill is not step number 1. Getting your own head to change it's default setting on how to grow stuff. Conventional cropping is predominately a triumph of technology over nature, a complete disregard of soil life, a substitution of nature from input suppliers.
DD is a much more subtle way to achieve the same with less lorries delivering stuff to the farm yard from fuel to agchems, fert etc. When you have got that. You will know which way to go. IMOE

 

[Honeybadger]

Moore do not make drills for serious arable any longer. The sumo is not a Moore. Either find a secondhand Moore last generation before they sold to Sumo. Or get a John Deere. Or if your pocket is deep enough get a cross slot. DD is a word with broad implications. From strip cats type stuff through to seed hawk tines to a JD. My personal view which ain't worth more than sh** is establishing a crop post harvest or destruction of a previous crop with the minimum soil disturbance. In general terms this ( If a valid idea) means you is stuck with disc based kit. Of those on market for non spring row cropping. There exists JD and cross slot.

Sumo now make a uni drill so if you want a new one you can get one