Best remote broadband

hally

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
cumbria
If you can get 4G reliably somewhere, could you run the antenna to that point?

iirc there was someone on here (in Cumbria?) that had done that, siting the antenna some way up the hill with cables buried. Can’t remember who it was though. :scratchhead:
Yep that was me, just found best point for 4g which was about 200 m above the farm. Dug in armoured cable to power a router which sends it to the farm through line of site with a receiver on the house gable end. EE network and cost about 2k. We can have 3 Netflix/ Amazon movies running simultaneously no bother ( bloody kids)😂 Previously with had nothing at all, couldn’t even get email on our land line.
 

Nearly

Member
Location
North of York
On Quickline, covers much of Yorkshire, N Lincs. Fixed wireless. Works very well, 50mbps almost constantly, few interruptions. Land line switch over to it too, which more than pays for the Q line connection. I think there are similar services in other areas. Most info available on google. Sound similar to Voneous?
Quickline was getting wound down in speed and up in price.
Had our home on it and holiday cottage. Asked them to close cottage account and they pulled the plug on both, denying there was a problem.
Sod them!

Now on a 4g signal on EE sim card. 75 meg split between 3 cottages.
 

Frank-the-Wool

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
East Sussex
Having lost fibre connection for the last couple of weeks, BT have send us a Mini hub on 4G.

I was very sceptical that it would work but while much slower than our full fibre it does 2.5 mbs if I put it in a certain place in the house. Sometimes the mobile signal drops out but this seems to keep working.
Not good enough for streaming but fine for general use for up to two people using internet at the same time.
 

Kidds

Member
Horticulture
Yep that was me, just found best point for 4g which was about 200 m above the farm. Dug in armoured cable to power a router
Why didn't you just do a cheapish solar panel and leisure battery? The routers don't run on 230V, more like 12V or less. Perfect application for solar and a tractor size battery.
 

hally

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
cumbria
Why didn't you just do a cheapish solar panel and leisure battery? The routers don't run on 230V, more like 12V or less. Perfect application for solar and a tractor size battery.
Just the advice of the guy doing the job really. Anything technical and i am useless so rely on advice
 

ste

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Derbyshire
BT upgraded our local network but wouldn't come the 300m up the fields to us as we are just one property. As the current service was next to useless and the 1/2 yearly damage from a neighbours tree to our line I finally gave up and went to a EE 4G router and got rid of the land line totally.

Previously got 2-3 download and 0.1-0.5 upload now getting 45-50 download and 4-5 download. Its a lot better than expected as phone coverage was around 1-2 bars on 4g.
 

upnortheast

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Northumberland
Why didn't you just do a cheapish solar panel and leisure battery? The routers don't run on 230V, more like 12V or less. Perfect application for solar and a tractor size battery.
@Kidds post made me think, is it possible
I looked at our panel output for Dec & Jan 120 panels about 12 kw day average , (with big range depending on cloud cover)
Worked out at about 0.1 kw per panel per day
A 4G router & a wireless bridge unit both seem to have a power requirement of about 1 amp @ 12v each

Not sure how to do the maths, anyone know ?
 

Exfarmer

Member
Location
Bury St Edmunds
@Kidds post made me think, is it possible
I looked at our panel output for Dec & Jan 120 panels about 12 kw day average , (with big range depending on cloud cover)
Worked out at about 0.1 kw per panel per day
A 4G router & a wireless bridge unit both seem to have a power requirement of about 1 amp @ 12v each

Not sure how to do the maths, anyone know ?
1 amp at 12 volts is 12 watts. Per day what be 24x 12
1 unit is amps X 1 volts X hours/ 1,000
So your system would use 24 X 12 = 288 / 1000 = .288 units
An average 88 amp hour tractor battery holds 88 X 12 amp hours = 1.066 WAh or units so combined with a solar panel generating .25 units per day would easily run this with a large margin of capacity for those dull days

However I would be astonished if the draw was anything like 1 amp!
Just be aware that the unit may require a 12 volt AC feed which would need a rectifier ( I think as that is outside my area)
 

TheTallGuy

Member
Location
Cambridgeshire
Many 4G routers run on 12V dc & in my experience will average ~0.3-0.5A current draw (depending on usage), although will have higher current peaks, which is why they are usually supplied with 1A power supplies. Some units use an ac supply & whilst in some instances it may be possible to use dc there is no guarantee that it would work & the only practical option would be to utilise an inverter, which will tend to be inefficient at those power levels.

In terms of using solar, I have 2x 100W solar panels feeding a 100AH battery via a proper MPPT charge controller (i.e. not an ebay/amazon cheapy) - that mostly keeps up with running my commercial grade alarm system which consumes a similar amount power to a router. Orientation and angling of the panels is critical & should be optimised to obtain the best results at this time of year - performance in summer isn't critical as there is usually enough sun around to compensate.

In my set up I will generally swap the battery if there's a few days of poor daylight because the battery voltage will be dropping off.
 

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