Best solution for stand in footbath?

[Boydvalley]

750 ewes, but numbers fluctuate wildly.

If you ever get chance see if it’s got what’s in it on the can. It could be it’s just detergent and that detergent is good at killing bacteria and they’ve got it passed for animal use. Good idea if they have and it works.

 

[unlacedgecko]

If you ever get chance see if it’s got what’s in it on the can. It could be it’s just detergent and that detergent is good at killing bacteria and they’ve got it passed for animal use. Good idea if they have and it works.

I'll check tomorrow. Can't be fücked with going out to the truck now.

 

[HBush]

This year is the worst I can remember strip leading to foot issues in lambs.

I’ve been running them through formalin and spraying with Terramycin but still not cleaning things up fully.

They moved onto fresh ground couple weeks ago on forage rape and I hoped that would help but still got too many limping.

Thinking about a stand in foot bath for them so wondered what solution is best.

Golden hoof/ Klingon Blue??

Other options?

Note it is a metal bath do copper sulphate is out.

Hello Jerry!
Did you get hold of a satisfactory stand-in footbath?
Just wondering as I seem to have a bit of a scald problem now, and since using a Prattley race, rather than my old one, I find the in-race footbath I had previously no longer fits system.
It seems IAE one is easily available here, but it has rail sides so I was afraid the solution would all splash out quick.
Bateman includes a mat which would reduce splash loss, but I haven't yet found a supplier, and it is smaller.

 

[neilo]

Hello Jerry!
Did you get hold of a satisfactory stand-in footbath?
Just wondering as I seem to have a bit of a scald problem now, and since using a Prattley race, rather than my old one, I find the in-race footbath I had previously no longer fits system.
It seems IAE one is easily available here, but it has rail sides so I was afraid the solution would all splash out quick.
Bateman includes a mat which would reduce splash loss, but I haven't yet found a supplier, and it is smaller.

If you pin two sheeted hurdles to the front of the Prattley race, with the other end either tied together at floor level, or pins pushed in by the ground, you can fit an 18' plastic jfc/Paxton footbath in nicely.

I've done plenty of sheep through a formalin footbath out in the field like that.

If you want a stand-in job, 2x 10' sheeted hurdles and 2x 3' IAE 'gates in frames' fit round a cow sized footbath nicely. Pin two hurdles between the front of your Prattley and the 3' gate.
Or if you're using a 3' drenching race, just put the above at the end of it, so you can shut them in the bath while you drench the next lot.

 

[Al R]

If you pin two sheeted hurdles to the front of the Prattley race, with the other end either tied together at floor level, or pins pushed in by the ground, you can fit an 18' plastic jfc/Paxton footbath in nicely.

I've done plenty of sheep through a formalin footbath out in the field like that.

If you want a stand-in job, 2x 10' sheeted hurdles and 2x 3' IAE 'gates in frames' fit round a cow sized footbath nicely. Pin two hurdles between the front of your Prattley and the 3' gate.
Or if you're using a 3' drenching race, just put the above at the end of it, so you can shut them in the bath while you drench the next lot.

When I’ve done flighty ewes that clear the first footbath I went and bought a second 8’ JFC footbath, have a pair of panels to go on the front of the yard which then hold in place with a Rappa 18” gate in frame and then another few hurdles off the front to contain the second footbath. They can’t jump 16’!!
if you could put a hurdle at the end you could hold 6-8 ewes in there which isn’t as bad as 3 at a time

 

[Jerry]

If you pin two sheeted hurdles to the front of the Prattley race, with the other end either tied together at floor level, or pins pushed in by the ground, you can fit an 18' plastic jfc/Paxton footbath in nicely.

I've done plenty of sheep through a formalin footbath out in the field like that.

If you want a stand-in job, 2x 10' sheeted hurdles and 2x 3' IAE 'gates in frames' fit round a cow sized footbath nicely. Pin two hurdles between the front of your Prattley and the 3' gate.
Or if you're using a 3' drenching race, just put the above at the end of it, so you can shut them in the bath while you drench the next lot.

What he said…

 

[HBush]

If you pin two sheeted hurdles to the front of the Prattley race, with the other end either tied together at floor level, or pins pushed in by the ground, you can fit an 18' plastic jfc/Paxton footbath in nicely.

I've done plenty of sheep through a formalin footbath out in the field like that.

If you want a stand-in job, 2x 10' sheeted hurdles and 2x 3' IAE 'gates in frames' fit round a cow sized footbath nicely. Pin two hurdles between the front of your Prattley and the 3' gate.
Or if you're using a 3' drenching race, just put the above at the end of it, so you can shut them in the bath while you drench the next lot.

Thank you, Neilo.
That seems like a possible solution.
I had not thought of tying the panels together at the bottom with baler twine.
I tried it at the top only, but that idea failed, but I was trying to hold them in as was ZnSO4 soln.and they had plenty time to consider best destructive tactics.
Does formalin dissolve Prattley's I wonder?
I might invest in a couple of those 3ft IAE gates. They sound useful.

 

[HBush]

What he said…

Thanks Jerry.
You guys are amazing

 

[HBush]

When I’ve done flighty ewes that clear the first footbath I went and bought a second 8’ JFC footbath, have a pair of panels to go on the front of the yard which then hold in place with a Rappa 18” gate in frame and then another few hurdles off the front to contain the second footbath. They can’t jump 16’!!
if you could put a hurdle at the end you could hold 6-8 ewes in there which isn’t as bad as 3 at a time

Another possibility here.
And you are right!
A paxton narrow footbath is too short when ewes jump out of the race.
"Splash", and the nearest footbath end goes bouncing up in the air sending solution everywhere but on sheep feet.

 

[ringi]

Would it work to glue the footbath to a sheet of wood using expanding foam?

 

[neilo]

Thank you, Neilo.
That seems like a possible solution.
I had not thought of tying the panels together at the bottom with baler twine.
I tried it at the top only, but that idea failed, but I was trying to hold them in as was ZnSO4 soln.and they had plenty time to consider best destructive tactics.
Does formalin dissolve Prattley's I wonder?
I might invest in a couple of those 3ft IAE gates. They sound useful.

Formalin won't effect the metal of the hurdles or the Prattley, but beware of Copper Sulphate being in contact with galvanising, as it will strip it off. Zinc Sulphate is fine though.

Another option, if you only want to use a small footbath on a Prattley as a 'stand in' (or to stop them running through) is to get an 18" gate in a frame and pin that on the other end of the hurdles, or a guillotine gate if you'd rather.

 

[Northern territory]

If you pin two sheeted hurdles to the front of the Prattley race, with the other end either tied together at floor level, or pins pushed in by the ground, you can fit an 18' plastic jfc/Paxton footbath in nicely.

I've done plenty of sheep through a formalin footbath out in the field like that.

If you want a stand-in job, 2x 10' sheeted hurdles and 2x 3' IAE 'gates in frames' fit round a cow sized footbath nicely. Pin two hurdles between the front of your Prattley and the 3' gate.
Or if you're using a 3' drenching race, just put the above at the end of it, so you can shut them in the bath while you drench the next lot.

Thats what I do. Tie one end. Plastic baths are crap though. Seem to waste a lot.

 

[ford 7810]

Made a foot bath out of an old diesel tank with old carpet in the bottom. zink sulphate stand them in a couple of minutes slow but works

We have a plastic one a foot wide and about 8/10 long it’s useless there’s more foot bath solution splashed over the side than left in the bath.

 

[HBush]

We have a plastic one a foot wide and about 8/10 long it’s useless there’s more foot bath solution splashed over the side than left in the bath.

This what I find about narrow plastic ones too. Out of the race with a splash. Then 6 sheep later it needs topping up

 

[neilo]

This what I find about narrow plastic ones too. Out of the race with a splash. Then 6 sheep later it needs topping up

Surely not, once they’re used to walking through a footbath? I have one setup in the yard and put sheep through as and when they’re in. I reckon on about 100 through, then top it up with another 25L drum of water (& a litre of Formalin).

 

[tepapa]

I'd be tempted to sell my ally footbath if anyone was really interested. Light enough to transport about and high sides to keep splashed in. Not the cheapest bath though.

 

[paul&mandy]

Use mainly zinc sulfate, tk triple d and sometimes formalin. Bottle of washing up liquid too. Bath holds about 45 ewes. Drain back pen holds the same then out to concrete yard to dry. Couldn't go back to a small race bath.

 

[HBush]

Surely not, once they’re used to walking through a footbath? I have one setup in the yard and put sheep through as and when they’re in. I reckon on about 100 through, then top it up with another 25L drum of water (& a litre of Formalin).

Really.
But my sheep not used to it.
Zn SO.
Thats why I was wondering what's better

 

[neilo]

Really.
But my sheep not used to it.
Zn SO.
Thats why I was wondering what's better

If they splash through formalin because they’re not used to a bath, then they’ll splash (more expensive) Zn SO4 out too.

A wider bath would help in that situation, with gates front and back, but still waste plenty unless the sides are sealed to the bath.