Best time to sell store cattle?

Frank-the-Wool

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Livestock Farmer
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East Sussex
The best time to sell Store cattle really depends on what they are.

Looking at it from a buyers point of view then it depends what the objective is and the greatest profit. My Father would not buy any Stores until after 1st February, his logic being twofold that the shooting season was over and cattle that had survived until then would last another couple of months ready for when the grass grew.
He would only buy outliers until early April and all cattle that were bought were turned straight out and survived very much on straw and low quality hay. They were of course mostly older cattle with a high proportion of Friesians, Shorthorns and various crosses. Used to buy cattle out of Dorchester Candlemas Fair that would have come off the Purbeck and probably run there for at least 3 years. He would only think about buying cattle that had cut at least two broad teeth and if the price was right we would come home with upwards of a 100 cattle from there. When Dorchester closed we went to Yeovil and now very occasionally to Frome.

Of course things have changed in that these old cattle no longer exist and of course BSE came along and the magic 30 month date appeared and of course the Holstein became the cow of choice.
However what is true still is that outlying or open yarded cattle bought in February and March and remaining outside (on better feed these days!) do grow far more quickly and finish better on a grass diet than yarded cattle turned out in April and May.
The dearest cattle are always bought in May and I always try to stop buying by the end of April.

We do have to buy better and younger cattle these days to sell on again to the specialist finishers who I am sure get a better price than I do.
 
How are stores doing now? I've got 30-35 BB X that I'd quite like to shift. I haven't weighed them but I'd say most are 400-450 with a few close to 500. All born spring 2017.
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The alternative is to keep and finish these and sell all my 2018 born ones but I get the impression that trade on smaller animals is pretty poor right now.
 
How are stores doing now? I've got 30-35 BB X that I'd quite like to shift. I haven't weighed them but I'd say most are 400-450 with a few close to 500. All born spring 2017.
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The alternative is to keep and finish these and sell all my 2018 born ones but I get the impression that trade on smaller animals is pretty poor right now.
I don’t know the answer however I’m in the same boat with a fair few cattle similar ages and I’m trying to get plenty of flesh onto them and get them away. I don’t think you have done anything wrong yet as the trade is lifting weeks on week I would say up our neck of the woods store cattle have lifted up to £150 from some of the worst sales a few months ago. The trade I’ve seen looked like well fed cattle in good condition aren’t too far short the others are well back. I could be wrong though
 

had e nuff

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Location
Durham
How are stores doing now? I've got 30-35 BB X that I'd quite like to shift. I haven't weighed them but I'd say most are 400-450 with a few close to 500. All born spring 2017.
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The alternative is to keep and finish these and sell all my 2018 born ones but I get the impression that trade on smaller animals is pretty poor right now.
As livestock 1 has said well fleshed stores are still making good money. Smaller rougher types are starting to pick up a bit going by Mondays trade. The closer we get to spring the better the trade will be for these smaller types. Looking at your pics I would say they are worth £750 ish. Maybe £800 for the heavier ones.
 

Werzle

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Location
Midlands
How are stores doing now? I've got 30-35 BB X that I'd quite like to shift. I haven't weighed them but I'd say most are 400-450 with a few close to 500. All born spring 2017.
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The alternative is to keep and finish these and sell all my 2018 born ones but I get the impression that trade on smaller animals is pretty poor right now.
Trades lifting slowly so it would pay to hold on at least 6 weeks imo. Photo's are hard to go by but i dont think they would average £800 . I definatly wouldnt sell the younger ones at this time of year.
 
As livestock 1 has said well fleshed stores are still making good money. Smaller rougher types are starting to pick up a bit going by Mondays trade. The closer we get to spring the better the trade will be for these smaller types. Looking at your pics I would say they are worth £750 ish. Maybe £800 for the heavier ones.
I did try to buy some a fortnight ago and there wasn’t anything there that would leave me enough margin to be worth bothering with. The previous sale of stores I was at in November was a much easier trade. I am up the hill a bit though so I need a bit more of a gap.
 
They are good cattle. They would look totally different beast with some feed to put some more flesh on and take a bit belly off at the same time. I’m in the same boat going through the same process
 

had e nuff

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Location
Durham
I did try to buy some a fortnight ago and there wasn’t anything there that would leave me enough margin to be worth bothering with. The previous sale of stores I was at in November was a much easier trade. I am up the hill a bit though so I need a bit more of a gap.
Do you buy small stores and sell them as strong stores. Only buy calves here and sell about 16 months. Try to rely on good silage and good grazing.
 
Quite often just give up and buy a few more breeding cattle like we did in November. It just takes two people or an auctioneer that can value them to put them out of reach
 

Werzle

Member
Location
Midlands
There are still a few bargains to be had but there are also a few more people looking for them. A spell of bad weather will pull some of the second/third quality cattle back and flush out a few that are short of fodder.
 

beefandsleep

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Location
Staffordshire
Except when it's me selling... :rolleyes:

It's certainly the case that Drayton has the numbers going through these days, and I am amazed at the distance some of the people are coming, both Buyers and Sellers. Just wish the facilities out the back were bigger sometimes, as it doesn't half get congested!

I agree about the penning and loading facilities, totally inadequate for the numbers they get, to make it worse the yard men in the store section are useless and have a terrible attitude unless your one of the bigger regular buyers. Puts me right off going and it’s my closest market.
 
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