Best tractor engine ever made? 3.. 2.. 1.. go !

Far North Gollach

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Livestock Farmer
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Caithness
Any mechanical engine IMO is better than the modern electronic crap nowadays, must admit the older perkins were very good. Still have a soft spot for me 135.

I've been shut down with a broken wire on the alternator not feeding the 5v sensor circuit and computer says no, a broken fecking wire..!! Had a failed injector on a Cat that didn't even throw an error code, knew something was up when the turbo was glowing cherry red and not even at full load. Just like the JD firmware saga, the full Cat diagnostics package c/w Cat engineer was required to read all the error codes! FFS a duff injector is pretty serious in my eyes but no the Cat engineer said, it was just shut down so all the others over fueled to compensate.... I could write about faults I've come across and drove me crackers for hours tbh....

I know a very well regarded Cat overhaul engineer (been working with Finnings 35+ years) who told me 20+ years ago electronic is the future, 8% fuel savings, easier fault finding, better reliability blah blah blah.

Aye, go and ask him now and he will tell you buy an older mechanical engine of your chosen make with a good block and spend a lot of money on it and remanufacture it as it will be a good investment. Says a lot in itself when a very experienced top level guy who works on them every day will tell you that.
 
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Phil P

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Arable Farmer
Location
North West
Don’t think you can beet the noise from a Detroit V8 two stroke thought! This one was dyno’d at 750hp
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Far North Gollach

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Livestock Farmer
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Caithness
Don’t think you can beet the noise from a Detroit V8 two stroke thought! This one was dyno’d at 750hp
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8V92?? I worked on 8V71's and thought they were a great engine, the yanks equivalent of a Gardner 6LXB, they were in everything from fishing boats to buses. Great sound but has fairly knackered my hearing....
 

essexpete

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Essex
One not mentioned yet and I don't know what it was called, fordson major engine.
That was my point. As an engine it made an enormous contribution and really raised the use of diesel with an easy starting engine. It was used in countless applications through the 50s and into the 60. I don't think it was capable of huge hours on a regular basis(perhaps oil played a part).
 

daveydiesel1

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Co antrim
Neuss

haven’t heard of them for years

not only International tractors, but International trucks used to run them back in the day

from memory, they weren’t that popular here, Perkins or Cummins were a more favoured choice in the trucks

“all neuss ( noise ) & no power” was what everyone called them 🤣 🤣
Not the 6.6. Its a great goin thing
 

Farmer_Joe

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Livestock Farmer
Location
The North
Ours perished by about 8000 hrs... probably due to the fact Rea Valley overcooked the power screw! It was about 130hp!
Don’t think it’s that un heard of for them to shoot rods heard of a few and head gaskets, amazes me what jd operators class as reliable?

most Perkins upto around 2005 are excellent all the ones I’ve had from old mf165 to 1006 in my 6465have been extremely good engines,

cousin runs slot of old Renaults with the mwm they seen extremely good when we have borrowed them
 

Deerefarmer

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Location
USA
Jd 6081 (8.1L) pre common rail with the denso pump.
Believe it or not the most reliable ag/ non hi way engine ever produced. I’ve seen it in everything from boats to trains and everything in between and capable of massive hp.
Both the 6.8 and the 8.1 with denso pump 👍 used in many applications.

N14 Cummins get honorable mention
 

capfits

Member
Any mechanical engine IMO is better than the modern electronic crap nowadays, must admit the older perkins were very good. Still have a soft spot for me 135.

I've been shut down with a broken wire on the alternator not feeding the 5v sensor circuit and computer says no, a broken fecking wire..!! Had a failed injector on a Cat that didn't even throw an error code, knew something was up when the turbo was glowing cherry red and not even at full load. Just like the JD firmware saga, the full Cat diagnostics package c/w Cat engineer was required to read all the error codes! FFS a duff injector is pretty serious in my eyes but no the Cat engineer said, it was just shut down so all the others over fueled to compensate.... I could write about faults I've come across and drove me crackers for hours tbh....

I know a very well regarded Cat overhaul engineer (been working with Finnings 35+ years) who told me 20+ years ago electronic is the future, 8% fuel savings, easier fault finding, better reliability blah blah blah.

Aye, go and ask him now and he will tell you buy an older mechanical engine of your chosen make with a good block and spend a lot of money on it and remanufacture it as it will be a good investment. Says a lot in itself when a very experienced top level guy who works on them every day will tell you that.
Just got back to the horse, least you could eat it if need be, and no emissions management fitted whatsoever.
 

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HSENI names new farm safety champions

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Written by William Kellett from Agriland

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The Health and Safety Executive for Northern Ireland (HSENI) alongside the Farm Safety Partnership (FSP), has named new farm safety champions and commended the outstanding work on farm safety that has been carried out in the farming community in the last 20 years.

Two of these champions are Malcom Downey, retired principal inspector for the Agri/Food team in HSENI and Harry Sinclair, current chair of the Farm Safety Partnership and former president of the Ulster Farmers’ Union (UFU).

Improving farm safety is the key aim of HSENI’s and the FSP’s work and...
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