Billericay V Guardian air.

[Spotty Dog]

I've used lilac Billericay bubble jets for a few years now and should renew them for next spring. Had no real issues with them other than the odd blockage . I just wondered what other people think of them and are there any similar alternatives to consider such as Guardian airs or anything else.

 

[Flintstone]

I’ve used GA’s for ages and they’re superb nozzles. At 3 bar you can romp on with little or no drift at all.

 

[Brisel]

Guardian Airs have a more streaky pattern but this seems to be ok by the time the pattern spreads out. The Bubblejets wear better. The GAs have a slight backyard angle that is useful for better coverage from stem extension onwards. I run both.

 

[Colin]

Lechler idkt

 

[tw15]

The new Billericay nozzle's look interesting .

 

[David.]

I went to Bubble Jets from GA, which I found streaky and horrible to look at all day.

 

[Brisel]

The new Billericay nozzle's look interesting .

Which ones? I have a set of 90% DRT Exrays which are very good in marginal wind conditions.

 

[tw15]

BFS EXRAY XC 04

 

[Sprayer 1]

I find the lechler idkt good but have to have have 6 GA s behind the machine or else it it sprays chem on the backframe and mudgards on the Househam. Last year I had to spray some thick wild oats off and the twin jets killed every one, but the GA s was not as good a job. This year I am looking for some twins that go backwards and straight down.

 

[Half Pint]

I know this is an old thread, but we need a new set of 025 nozzles for 100L / Ha spraying. The 90% drift reduction of the BfS ExRay XC does look a good advantage in marginal conditions, but is it at a cost of good coverage? I fully understand that everything is a compromise but is having such good drift control at the cost of coverage.
What I am asking is the coverage of the ExRay as good as a Guardian Air which we currently use as a general nozzle.
I can find Guardian Air spec that compares them to TeeJet AIXR and BfS Bubble Jet as well as HGCA spec for a group of nozzles but none compared to the BfS ExRay XC, does anyone know how they compare for coverage? Thank you.

 

[Bigjon44]

Red flat fans all the way

 

[Bigjon44]

Are twins better than normal GA?

 

[Brisel]

I know this is an old thread, but we need a new set of 025 nozzles for 100L / Ha spraying. The 90% drift reduction of the BfS ExRay XC does look a good advantage in marginal conditions, but is it at a cost of good coverage? I fully understand that everything is a compromise but is having such good drift control at the cost of coverage.
What I am asking is the coverage of the ExRay as good as a Guardian Air which we currently use as a general nozzle.
I can find Guardian Air spec that compares them to TeeJet AIXR and BfS Bubble Jet as well as HGCA spec for a group of nozzles but none compared to the BfS ExRay XC, does anyone know how they compare for coverage? Thank you.

The ExRay are fairly new and the AHDB nozzle chart pre dates them. I am only a grower, not a nozzle specialist. I bought a set when they first came out, having only run Bubblejets and various finer nozzles, wanting a set for those days when I had to get on but the wind would have been too much for finer droplets eg. glyphosate on big plants. They were very coarse and did the job well but I would not use them for a small target like 2 leaf blackgrass or flea beetle. @Simpers Trade Counter supplied them but I don’t know if he is still on TFF.

I would put them in the top quarter of the list ie. very coarse. I would use them with much more water than 100l/ha if you still want good coverage from more droplets/ha.

Are twins better than normal GA?

What do you want to hit? They are not a good comparison! The Twins give good coverage in small crop canopies and cloddy seedbeds but I found them blocking more often than single outlet GAs. Don’t forget that you have 2 half sized nozzles.

 

[Bigjon44]

Wide range of crops
Brassicas, potatoes, wheat,pumpkins!

 

[Brisel]

Wide range of crops
Brassicas, potatoes, wheat,pumpkins!

A flat fan is the universal nozzle, at the expense of drift reduction and occasionally coverage depending on the size, location, shading etc of your target. I don’t think I’ve ever met a grower with a reasonable scale and their own sprayer who only has one set of nozzles. Angled medium/fine for a rough surface, low drift for those dodgy days and high volume for big crop canopies would be a start for those crops IMO.

 

[Boysground]

I don’t know if it’s the right solution but I seem to have ended up running 03 04 and 05 guardian air. I change rate and speed according to need. Usually between 11 and 14 kph and 100 to 200l. Most seems to be at 125, but have done most of my pre/peri ems between 165 and 200, I will change rate to reduce the number of loads if I can.

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[Bigjon44]

Yeah I don't have huge acreage so am not pushed to go out there on less than ideal spraying days so have just stuck to flat fans for the last 15 years.IMO they seem to do the job most of the time covering most scenarios

 

[davidroberts30]

Yeah I don't have huge acreage so am not pushed to go out there on less than ideal spraying days so have just stuck to flat fans for the last 15 years.IMO they seem to do the job most of the time covering most scenarios

i was like you last year.... till i changed to bfs bubblejets....

 

[Bigjon44]

For the better??!!

 

[davidroberts30]

For the better??!!

a hell of a lot better!!
in the windy west here was really struggling to get out sensibly with flat fans
missed timings cost me a lot more than the £120 for the bfs nozzles