Bio-fungicides at T0

Brisel

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Arable Farmer
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Midlands
Exactly what got me curious when I couldn’t see anything of these products in the NIAB strategies. I only got the recommendation tonight at 0.5l/ha so won’t get price until tomorrow. Can keep you updated.

If you're a NIAB TAG member, I'd look up work by Syed Shah on biostimulants. The fact that they don't get much mention in current strategies is quite telling.

I'd go with your last paragraph in your opening post!
 
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Tractor Boy

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Suffolk
I'm not planning on using it, but I am watching this and salicylic acid with interest as potential products. I expect the ££££ will be too high for me in the "dry" east.
Back in the late 90’s I was a distributor agronomist and Novartis(before Syngenta days) showed us some trials of using a salicylic acid product to stimulate the plants immune system. Not sure why it’s pretty much gone off the radar for about 20 years til now. Was it not that successful? Or was there more money to be made from fungicides?
 

Gong Farmer

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S E Glos
Suspect CTL was a) cheaper, b) easier and c) more effective.
Indeed, and if applied at T0 splashed up to leaf 3 to give early protection to it. (and onto leaf 2 from a T1 treatment. Folpet doesn't do that btw).
Breeders of resistant varieties often claimed they should be treated as others because eliciting the plant's defence mechanism drained energy and reduced yield. Maybe that's why salicylic didn't take off.
 
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PSQ

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Arable Farmer
Supposed to be an elicitor that triggers the plants defence mechanism against disease. I thought it sounded quite interesting as something for the future but yet to be proven.

I’d imagine it’s intended mode of action is not so much as an ‘elicitor’, more of a lubricant.

But ‘KY Jelly’ would be a lot cheaper.
 

robbie

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BASIS
My fungicide normally start at t1

needs an extreme season to require otherwise here

not put a herbicide on most of it yet even ;)
Me neither, I walked a fair bit of mine today and I'm in no hurry to spray for weeds or fungicide. Another dose of MN+ other micros as required will be my T0 unless things drastically change.
I can't even find any mildew which I usually have lurking in the bottom on some of my thick lush crops.
 
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Northern territory

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Livestock Farmer
I think rust is such a fast mover of strains it’s difficult to predict which varieties will suffer. Recommended list might as well be thrown out of the window.
 

Bogweevil

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If you're a NIAB TAG member, I'd look up work by Syed Shah on biostimulants. The fact that they don't get much mention in current strategies is quite telling.

I'd go with your last paragraph in your opening post!

I particularly enjoyed Dr Shah's sage advice in CPM:

Syed Shah says each season is different and one biostimulant product might work on certain soil types but not on others.

More usefully:

Aspects of Applied Biology 134, 2017 Crop Production in Southern Britain

The effect of biostimulants on crop vigour, disease incidence andgrain yield of winter wheat and winter oilseed rape

By SYED SHAH, SARAH HOOKWAY, SARAH WILKINSON and JOHN FLETCHER

Agrii Technology Centre (AgriiFocus), North Farm, Swindon SN8 2JZ, UK
Corresponding Author Email:[email protected]

Abstract
This paper is the first of its kind reporting the effects of biostimulants on crop vigour,disease control and grain yield of combinable crops such as winter wheat and winteroilseed rape. Data analysis showed that there were some signifcant differences between biostimulants in terms of their effects on vigour, leaf colour and yield but had no effect ondisease incidence (averaged over five trials). All biostimulants had positive effects on grainyield but their effects were not always signifcant. The phosphite based biostimulant had a positive effect on the yield of winter oilseed rape (Advance) with 4.92 t ha-1 recorded,
compared with 4.68 t ha-1 in the control plots. This biostimulant also resulted in higher yield in winter wheat (Dickens, 11.15 t ha-1) compared with the control plots (10.45 t ha -1)in 2015–2016. The amino acid-based and other biostimulants also showed some positive effects but the effects were not always statistically signifcant. The results from a range of trials suggest that biostimulants may have a role in enhancing yield but they are “nice-to-have” instead of “need-to-have” technology in intensive farming systems with sufficient fertiliser, nutrients and fungicides. Further work is needed to investigate the effect of the interactions of biostimulants and different fungicide and/or fertiliser rates on disease incidence and grain yield in a range of combinable crops on a range of soil types.
 

Gong Farmer

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teslacoils

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Not difficult to match the performance of folpet :whistle:

I was having more of a veiled go at how distributors love to pimp their exclusive products. But then when the product isn't exclusive, it becomes rubbish etc. My agronomist would invariably recommend something like Helix, then when he moved companies, Helix was shyte and Skyway xpro / prosaro was the new cool thing, then after another move skyway was crap and something else exclusive took its place.
 
I was having more of a veiled go at how distributors love to pimp their exclusive products. But then when the product isn't exclusive, it becomes rubbish etc. My agronomist would invariably recommend something like Helix, then when he moved companies, Helix was shyte and Skyway xpro / prosaro was the new cool thing, then after another move skyway was crap and something else exclusive took its place.

How long and how many moves for your agronomist did you put up with that?
 

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