Bionature fertilisers

[Cordiale]

Sorry for my slightly facetious response. Tim seems to be a brand ambassador for them - I can't blame them for wanting to surf the wave of success. Tim's YEN record attempts haven't always worked out well with a clear net margin over input costs. He withdrew his attempt in at least one year when the yield potential was limited for what may be other reasons. He was spending circa £150/ha extra on Bionature products, so needed the higher yield potential to show the net gain. That said, he seemed to be ahead most of the time.

Yes I agree. But does he use it over all his cereals? And if not, and it's so good, why not?

 

[ajd132]

Sorry for my slightly facetious response. Tim seems to be a brand ambassador for them - I can't blame them for wanting to surf the wave of success. Tim's YEN record attempts haven't always worked out well with a clear net margin over input costs. He withdrew his attempt in at least one year when the yield potential was limited for what may be other reasons. He was spending circa £150/ha extra on Bionature products, so needed the higher yield potential to show the net gain. That said, he seemed to be ahead most of the time.

After seeing his osr spend I don’t actually understand how it is possible to spend that amount of money on inputs!

 

[Brisel]

After seeing his osr spend I don’t actually understand how it is possible to spend that amount of money on inputs!

Start going to distributor agronomy meetings - you’ll get the idea quickly enough

 

[ajd132]

Start going to distributor agronomy meetings - you’ll get the idea quickly enough

No Thankyou. The agrii agronomist in arable is enough!

 

[Bogweevil]

So often I ask special nutrient suppliers for published, replicated independent reports of efficacy. I never hear from them again. Still you cannot ignore the opinions of practical people.

 

[SilliamWhale]

So often I ask special nutrient suppliers for published, replicated independent reports of efficacy. I never hear from them again. Still you cannot ignore the opinions of practical people.

No I agree. Mr Lamyman is obviously a very good farmer on very good land and is always worth listening to. The question for everyone else is how repeatable it would be for them and what cost level are they prepared to go to.

 

[ajd132]

No I agree. Mr Lamyman is obviously a very good farmer on very good land and is always worth listening to. The question for everyone else is how repeatable it would be for them and what cost level are they prepared to go to.

I really dislike how his system gets pushed as ‘the way’ to farm in the press.

 

[SilliamWhale]

I really dislike how his system gets pushed as ‘the way’ to farm in the press.

Don't worry about the bloody press! They are always behind the curve

 

[N.Yorks.]

Gross Margin not yield (imho)

 

[Brisel]

Gross Margin not yield (imho)

Sustainable net margin is better?

 

[Cordiale]

No I agree. Mr Lamyman is obviously a very good farmer on very good land and is always worth listening to. The question for everyone else is how repeatable it would be for them and what cost level are they prepared to go to.

Apparently according to Bob Bulmer of Hutchinsons, Tim Lamyman is on very mediocre grade 3 dirt.

 

[Brisel]

Apparently according to Bob Bulmer of Hutchinsons, Tim Lamyman is on very mediocre grade 3 dirt.

Mediocre Grade 3 dirt that has been well managed to grow very high yielding crops

 

[N.Yorks.]

Apparently according to Bob Bulmer of Hutchinsons, Tim Lamyman is on very mediocre grade 3 dirt.

Looks like he's got a nice mixture - loams and clay loams, something for every occassion when it comes to moisture.

 

[cricketandcrops]

some of the Wold land around here is very high yield potential land, I know because I sit on combine chomping through 12-14 t/ha wheat crops each harvest (except for 2020!!!)

 

[ajd132]

some of the Wold land around here is very high yield potential land, I know because I sit on combine chomping through 12-14 t/ha wheat crops each harvest (except for 2020!!!)

It’s the altitude that makes the real difference I think, lots of sun and not the scorching heat lower down.

 

[cricketandcrops]

Same on the coast, it keeps it cool, often in summer if visiting customers in Nottinghamshire I get home and its 6 degrees cooler.

The Wolds are funny, eastern side doesn't yield as well as west facing, west get all the sun east gets a battering from the north sea

 

[farenheit]

Gross Margin not yield (imho)

When you average 16t/ha across a field, you really, really don't need to worry about your input costs making a dent in your gross margin. That yield is about £1600/ha more wheat than I would grow here. I'm not sure he'd be worrying about whether to spend £15 on a T0.

 

[Cowcorn]

Mediocre Grade 3 dirt that has been well managed to grow very high yielding crops

Tell me what camp does he belong to ?? Mintiller ?? DD er ??? Or maybe horror of horrors a ploughman ??

 

[Brisel]

Tell me what camp does he belong to ?? Mintiller ?? DD er ??? Or maybe horror of horrors a ploughman ??

No idea. Deep tillage of some kind IIRC

 

[farenheit]

No idea. Deep tillage of some kind IIRC

Plough one in three min till otherwise