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<blockquote data-quote="Kiwi Pete" data-source="post: 6713777" data-attributes="member: 63856"><p>We do, but we're also in NZ, land of freedom so the figures will be much different.</p><p>We don't worry about fast, cheap is the name of the game for us</p><p>Buy at around 270kg and sell in a year at 550-650kg, we cell-graze them on PP with small areas/many moves, they are our "tractors" ie they smash the pasture down</p><p>Buy: £400</p><p>Sell: £750-950</p><p></p><p>We also lease them to the dairy boys for £250/hd which can hold them up a bit but means you aren't so dependent on beef prices as they owe you much less. Just need a clear BVD Johnes IBR tb test and off they go.</p><p>We don't use fertiliser/lime so to us buying a larger framed animal means less Ca is taken away, making it the least extractive way for us to operate</p><p></p><p>Moving them several times a day in spring/summer prevents overgrazing pasture and boredom, so they stop wrecking things and just graze - lie down - move on</p><p></p><p>We figure our land cost (mortgage, rates, etc) comes to about £250/ac all counted so we run a good stocking rate when we have the feed growing and then adjust numbers to suit the season, hence the low-cost approach, this is the only way to stand up again if you take a hiding when you need to sell</p><p></p><p>We cell graze over winter too, ours ate 1/4 of a round bale each plus deferred pasture</p><p></p><p>We did our sums on avg cow price at sale time (£2.20/kg cwt) and it rose to £3.02 due to ASF etc, so it was a good exercise this year, some animals grossed £750</p><p></p><p>It takes a big "change of heart" from the way most people farm beef, not saying this is a perfect system or for UK use - but if they are going to give you a hiding on the grid, you have to afford it somehow</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kiwi Pete, post: 6713777, member: 63856"] We do, but we're also in NZ, land of freedom so the figures will be much different. We don't worry about fast, cheap is the name of the game for us Buy at around 270kg and sell in a year at 550-650kg, we cell-graze them on PP with small areas/many moves, they are our "tractors" ie they smash the pasture down Buy: £400 Sell: £750-950 We also lease them to the dairy boys for £250/hd which can hold them up a bit but means you aren't so dependent on beef prices as they owe you much less. Just need a clear BVD Johnes IBR tb test and off they go. We don't use fertiliser/lime so to us buying a larger framed animal means less Ca is taken away, making it the least extractive way for us to operate Moving them several times a day in spring/summer prevents overgrazing pasture and boredom, so they stop wrecking things and just graze - lie down - move on We figure our land cost (mortgage, rates, etc) comes to about £250/ac all counted so we run a good stocking rate when we have the feed growing and then adjust numbers to suit the season, hence the low-cost approach, this is the only way to stand up again if you take a hiding when you need to sell We cell graze over winter too, ours ate 1/4 of a round bale each plus deferred pasture We did our sums on avg cow price at sale time (£2.20/kg cwt) and it rose to £3.02 due to ASF etc, so it was a good exercise this year, some animals grossed £750 It takes a big "change of heart" from the way most people farm beef, not saying this is a perfect system or for UK use - but if they are going to give you a hiding on the grid, you have to afford it somehow [/QUOTE]
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