phil1966
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- malton north yorkshire
wondering what are peoples thoughts on the fear of roundup being banned and the effect of it having on black grass control
Blackgrass
- Thread starter Chris F
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That would be a game changer in many different ways, not just for blackgrass. It is an integral part of the reduction in cultivation passes and moving away from ploughing, though in bad BG situations glyphosate is used as well as ploughing.
phil1966
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- Location
- malton north yorkshire
we don't suffer to much with blackgrass as much as some others were lucky though we are seeing it in fields were we normaly don't see it crop rotation helps as well as fields being walked to pull blackgrass
- Location
- Lincolnshire
It would be the end of a lot of farming. Yes, a know grandad managed fine. Just like he smoked sixty a day and ate a cooked breakfast and he lived to 102. But a lot of farm efficiencies and yield increases have been driven by chemistry.
Roundup will go. And a few years later it will come back.
Name me a chemical that has come back (other than asulam).
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Roundup will be different.
IMVHO it will be a different chemical but do the same, Im sure there is one out there ready and waiting, roundup is cheap the new one wont be
How so? There isn't a day goes by without a story about another US lawsuit, residues turning up in breakfast cereals, evil Monsanto etc. Type glyphosate into a search engine to see that the vast majority of news is negative. The truth or how important it is to farmers to preserve carbon, biology, wildlife and steel is immaterial.
- Location
- Buckinghamshire
You could be correct i believe they all ready have the replacement but not at the price of the current one.
Look at it this way US does not like Germany they sold them Monsanto and now there are a lot of big claims so Germany will in the end have to pay US
VW The amount claims for the cars in the US is bigger than Monsanto claims at the moment
Its not just a few chemicals or cars its bigger than that
These claim are bigger than than the US defence budget
Germany knows it cannot pay just wait and see
yellow belly
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- Location
- south west lincolnshire
when there is a wheat crop problem but a lot less acres planted because fallow is a major crop there will be a rethink
without round up Europe would need to import a lot of roundup ready crop
they wont be able to as it wont meet eu standards, well thats what remainers keep telling us
We've been importing GM crops for years that don't meet our standards. Why should that change? Brexit has nothing to do with that.
If a glyphosate replacement exists the active ingredient will have been patented. If a replacement active has been patented then the patent has a limited lifetime and the new active will be getting closer to being able to be copied all the time.
dannewhouse
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- Location
- huddersfield
I thought someone found the perfect replacement for roundup? wasn't it liquid fert put on at not too higher rate through flat fan nozzles!
(I think it was an IBC mistake they had a chem mix in 1 but got the wrong one/!!!)
(I think it was an IBC mistake they had a chem mix in 1 but got the wrong one/!!!)
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Because banning roundup will be like banning nitrogen fertiliser or even diesel. Yes it can be done. But while trendy media types in that London can stomach a 50 percent rise in the cost of basics, a lot of our fellow Europeans can't. An EU ban pushing food prices up in the UK may cause few social ripples but it's different elsewhere.
Me, we without roundup I'm doubly f**ked. I'm already resigned to mostly being a grass farm but with no roundup it's a certainty.
Me, we without roundup I'm doubly f**ked. I'm already resigned to mostly being a grass farm but with no roundup it's a certainty.
I know we have it, was tongue in cheek
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Doesn't kill the root. But yes liquid fert through a flat fan will burn off a lot of greenery.
yellow belly
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- Location
- south west lincolnshire
but not legal in the autumn where cereals will go
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Could you apply it to a brassica cover crop? That's the posh name for volunteer osr. I doubt it would take a lot of N to do it.