kiwi pom
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- Location
- canterbury NZ
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Blame game
- Thread starter Grassman
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- Location
- Co antrim
The farmer was parked in a stupid way, BUT he also wasnt moving so therefore its the car drivers fault. Thats the way insurance will look on it fair or unfair
- Location
- Aberdeenshire
80% tractor driver 20% car driver.
No way should the tractor be left blocking the road like that. But was clearly static on the road from far enough to expect the car to reduce his speed enough to avoid such an incidence.
No way should the tractor be left blocking the road like that. But was clearly static on the road from far enough to expect the car to reduce his speed enough to avoid such an incidence.
it could have broken down
betweenthelines
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- Location
- southwest
Car driver 100% at fault.
You should never drive so fast that your stopping distance is further than you can see ahead.
You should never drive so fast that your stopping distance is further than you can see ahead.
Correct answer
besides it was obvious that there were cab top front lights on at a funny angle so the sensible thing to do would have been to slow down till you were sure what was going on.
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- Location
- Aberdeenshire
Perhaps but I doubt it, where was his hazard warning lights then or flashing beacon.
We all have the benefit of knowing an accident is going to occur but I still was shocked where the plough was.
I don't think the car driver could have reasonably ever expected that, so I'd mainly blame the tractor driver.
just it you don't know what was going on, do you know the lighting rules for that country so really is pointless gustimating
Boohoo
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- Location
- Newtownabbey
Obviously the accident in question didn't happen in the UK, but if it had, would the answer to who is to blame be different under the new hierarchy of road users?
The principle of this is that those who can cause the most harm in a collision, bear the greatest responsibility to reduce the danger they may pose to others.
The principle of this is that those who can cause the most harm in a collision, bear the greatest responsibility to reduce the danger they may pose to others.
SilliamWhale
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I think the tractor driver hasn't been responsible but isn't the car driver driving excessively fast if unable to slow down fast enough?
Om352
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I've had cars wait behind me with a plough on while waiting to turn right and just as you can move off they undertake you and never consider the swing of the implement. One Audi driver tanged his ariel on a landslide doing just that, could have been serious if the plough was a bit lower! But that plough at night looked lethal.
FonterraFarmer
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- Location
- Waikato, New Zealand
- Location
- Aberdeenshire
I'm not to bothered either way tbh I won't be loosing any sleep over it
True I don't know the exact circumstances of what went on, I was making an observation from your speculation that "it could have broken down"
Hazard warning lights and amber beacons are fairly standard world wide, so common sense says if you break down you put on at least one, to warn on coming traffic.
- Location
- Aberdeenshire
I'm not surprised you've had such experiences, one time driving on the road with the plough on, a car driver behind was nearly under the plough, almost wished I could have lowered it a touch to give him a scare but lift locks at transport speed.
The reality is as we all know we've to drive almost defensively and preventing accidents as the average car driver hasn't a clue about implements swinging out or the room we need, very much like lorry drivers.
I suppose to be fair to them they don't see why they should, but not overtaking whilst a tractor is turning right might be a help, in my younger days on a farm further South carting silage, if you were turning right with no on cumming traffic you got a wheel over the white line just before you were turning to block overtaking
ollie989898
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This is the original and non-facebook link. I have found that the video won't load at first so you have to click to refresh the page after which it will load.
A tractor driver who does not deserve a driver’s license
Until the last seconds, he had no idea to what extent the agricultural machine was hitting its lane. On the road, I cut our traps on a daily basis and in many cases depend to a
canvids.com
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Dad always said drive as if there could be somebody pushing a pram across the road round the next corner especially at night.
Stood me in good stead a few times.
Prams don’t have lights. Fallen trees don’t have lights. Animals don’t have lights. Always drive in accordance with visibility and your stopping distance.
It’s not really a good excuse to smash into something just because it’s not lit up like Blackpool tower.
Stood me in good stead a few times.
Prams don’t have lights. Fallen trees don’t have lights. Animals don’t have lights. Always drive in accordance with visibility and your stopping distance.
It’s not really a good excuse to smash into something just because it’s not lit up like Blackpool tower.
DeeGee
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- Location
- North East Wales
That’s pretty much what my Dad always said, through he was a slow driver and overly cautious at all times.
But unpalatable though it may be to many people, our fathers were 100% right on this one.
ollie989898
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That is true but the tractor was weirdly placed in the road and had no warning signs or anything. Had I have been broken down there I would have been stopping the traffic well ahead for fear of what could happen. Hazards on, beacons (one situation where they might actually be useful) and even a warning triangle would be ideal.