Blast fron the Past 29 A very Small Cog in this World of ours

Owd Fred

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Location
Stafford
A very Small Cog in this World of ours

It’s amazing to realise after all these years what a very small cog we are in this world of ours. It’s only this last few years that we have had a computer and the World Wide Web, with all the information that it contains, and how you can speak to the other side of the world speaking face to face on the screen.
Kids brought up with all the technology have no problem getting the yeds round it, but as an oldun, it takes some time for it to all sink in. Take re-setting the digital clocks about the house, including the one in the car and on the weather station and such like, all have a different sequence of pushing buttons and flashing numbers to be re-set with an OK button of one sort or another. Doing the job every day it would be okay, but only twice a year ya forget the sequence of buttons to press.

Back seventy odd years ago there was the wireless, and I mean wireless, although it did have a an aerial wire draped around the house to the shed down the garden, it was powered by a battery, a glass accumulator with two terminals on top and two loops with a short cord for carrying it when it had to be taken down the local filling station/ garage, to be re-charged. When the commentary of a big boxing match was to be broadcast, there would be a mad rush of everyone who needed the accumulator to be re-charged in readiness for that night. Then it progressed to a mains radio with its three buttons on the front and a dome speaker all built into a cabinet almost as big as a refrigerator.
Then in the early 1950’s we had our first television, in black and white, with its screen rolling up and blinking until father got it tuned in properly, there was only the BBC to watch and that had a test card on in between the odd program they put on in about three periods of the day, one of which was a kids program at tea time, and the others were mainly news programs.
The early telephones were wired via telephone poles and strung across into the houses that needed a phone, the school the shop, the estate and most of the farms, the rest of the village folk had a public telephone kiosk. Some phone lines were party lines that were shared with another house in the village, they had the same number, and had to listen to the pattern of ring tone to know if it was intended for them, if the other person was nosey, they could pick up and listen in to your conversation. Back then they were all just a two digit numbers and you could call anyone in the village without an operator that was marvellous, to ring outside the village you had to ring the operator who would plug you into the number you required, and further afield you may go through a number of operators into the region you required. As more folk wanted a telephone so the numbers were up graded to three digits, then as the exchanges became automated we were six digit numbers, and on again to the familiar ten digit numbers only to be eclipsed by the up and coming mobile phones of which were the size of a house brick.

I saw the first sugar beet harvesters come in, the first combines in our area, the first round the cowshed milk pipe lines into churns in the dairy then eventually into bulk milk tanks, first bulk milk collections, the first cow cubicles invented 1960, and first milking parlours. On tractors, the first with a cabs, just enough to shelter you from the weather, the first Land Rovers were immediately preceded by the American army Jeep, the Land Rovers were demonstrated ploughing harrowing sowing and with a power take off drive, sawing wood on a saw bench. Not many machines were PTO driven back then. I saw the first drum/disc mowers that rapidly took over from the finger bar mowers, the Ferguson tractors were first with the hydraulic ploughs and implements to go with it, then all makes of tractor followed that same idea.

Father was well up to date when he was the first in the local area to have a milking machine, three unit buckets and a spare to change to when one was full, this was 1938. He had broken his arm, so he was a one handed milker, and the local farm merchant’s sales man came calling wanting someone in their area to buy a milking machine, to get the ball rolling, and that was what he did. They installed it and fitted an airline right through the cowsheds, and stayed for the first few milking’s to ensure it all worked at the right vacuum pressure, and soon got others around the local area to purchase one.
We were always brought up to be self-sufficient, in our farming, our repairs and improvements, in our replacement for the milking herd, in hay for the work horses and cows, though when tractors came along he had to buy the fuel. He always commented that when the tractors were resting in the shed, they were not burning/eating fuel like the horses always did, but then again the horses did not use fuel when they were working.

It was drilled into us that you cannot farm without common sense, look at thing how they are, not how you would like them to be, work with the weather it no use going against it and it impossible to get a good seed be when the ground is sad and cold and end up as it dries with large clods of soil that when they dry out are as solid as bricks


Educations What You Want

Educations what you want, or that is what I’m told,
Get on in life and see the world, seek your pot of gold.
More to life than toil and sweat, let others soil their hands,
Let education guide the way, nine till five, five days a week demand.

Over the years most folk done this, for better jobs they travelled,
Men they left the land in droves, off into town they pedalled.
With better money they bought a car, get about much quicker,
Then travelled even further afield, became the city slicker.
Owd Fred​



This is the picture I woke up to first thing one morning, ya wouldna do that in the city, grazing the orchard.



This was taken of the cows and calves down the lane looking through the lower branches of a chestnut tree


So, no I did not leave the land and did not become a city slicker, I followed the family’s tradition of farming, and who knows where the next fifty years will take us with the ones who now have custardy of the land. Twenty cows were the norm in the 1930’s when father started farming and when he retired 1975 it was sixty, then for my generation in the 1990’s a hundred cows was a very large herd.
Now I have just retired 2014 three farms in the village have been amalgamated to form a new herd in two units of three hundred and fifty cows and four hundred and fifty cows ( heading for a thousand cows) all out wintered and all dry over Christmas to calve in February, also rearing all their own replacements.
Almost would have been un-believable just a year or so ago, the same goes with the technology and gadgets such as sat nav’s on tractors that monitor seed and fertilizer according to the strength of the land to obtain the optimum yields.
I am way out of my depth and rapidly becoming out of date, it’s a younger mon’s job (below 60) and it still only works properly with common sense, and the most common sense thing fa me to have done is to retire, should have done it five years ago. While the mind and body are both willing and you are happy to carry on. So now it has happened and I feel happy to sit back and just watch how the modern younger farmers cope, and look closely for how much common sense they use.


One pound of learning requires ten pounds of common sense to apply it.
Persian Proverb

A handful of common sense is worth a bushel of learning.
Author Unknown
 

Bwcho

Member
Location
Cymru
Keep them coming @Owd Fred (y)
It's not just memories that you're writing but also Britain's Agricultural History. I find it fascinating.
Hope that you're enjoying the well deserved retirement.
 

Owd Fred

Member
Location
Stafford
When you look back there was not many things that we cold not repair of build, brick laying, concreting, plumbing with iron pipes along with threading the end of each pipe and using hemp and plumbers paste for the joint. Electric was always a dodgy area, there was no earth trips, just a bit of the right size fuse wire, that could kill you before it blew, so a certain amount of caution was heeded on how many things you could run off one extension lead.
The first tractor only had one electronic unit on it the magneto which was fool proof, the rest of the tractor could be repaired or parts replace with a decent set of AF spanners, and whitworth spanners for almost everything else on the farm, and a big hommer fa most everything else along with a fair amount of common sence.


Farmers Skills know no Bounds

Over the years you learn most skills, enough to get ya by,
Welding plumbing laying bricks, ya mind ya must apply,
Laying concrete with a slope, grids and drains dig in,
Mend the roofs and spouting, protect the stock within.

A builders job is in his hands, a trowel and shovel need,
Pegs and line and spirit level, practice now for speed,
Anyone can do the job, an eye for accuracy to lay,
Bricks and blocks to make a wall, mistakes are on display.

Plumbing now with plastic pipes, and easy joints push fit,
Gone are the old iron pipes, a lot of work admit,
Cut with hacksaw threads to cut, paste and hemp wound on,
Elbows tee’s and feral joints, with pipe wrench now all gone.

A breakdown now, repair with weld, another job to learn,
Clean the rust off on the joint, with weld rod at angle burn,
Steady flow and curled up ash, or that is how should be,
Mine resembles pigeon sh!t, in lumps and holes for me.

Old nuts and bolts of any size, they build up in the shed,
But finding one the right size, too thick too short the thread,
When ones found that’s okay, but now you need a pair,
Then the jobs impossible, enough to mek ya swear.

Cotter pins they’re soft and bend, can never get them out,
Top and tail it breaks off, in hole with rust we clout,
The right size nail comes handy, tail end bent round double,
Get you moving, harvest time, and gets you out of trouble.

Farmer’s skill’s know no bounds, most thing he will tackle,
Jack of all trades master of none, but saves a lot of hassle,
Do the job to how he likes, no one to tell that’s wrong
Confidence in home made skills, build and make real strong.

Owd Fred​
 

Owd Fred

Member
Location
Stafford
Never in my working life have I ever had time to look back and reflect back on how things have changed, until now. We always have worked hard, the harder we work the more we seem to be chasing our own tails, trying to go faster and faster and no better off in the end.
It’s either that or get left behind, and now that I have jumped off the Merry-Go-Round, it’s become very clear that it is a job for the younger generation and time for them to show their metal.

On this land we love the best

We are watched from way up high, on how we treat our land,
This land that we are caring for, for generations stand,
To stand just where our fathers stood, see it through their eyes,
And how the fields and lanes have looked, neath the clear blue skies.

The misty foggy mornings, dew drops on all the leaves,
The sunrise on the meadows, the bird song in the trees,
Long shadows in the evening, as the sun sets in the west,
Trees and bushes in full bloom, on this land we love the best.

Owd Fred​
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
A very accurate description of the traditional farmer's many skills. We find that nowadays people are less and less able or willing to try work outside of their particular trade.

And in another note I haven't been able to tune a car radio for about 10 years, leaving that to the Mrs.
 

Owd Fred

Member
Location
Stafford
And in another note I haven't been able to tune a car radio for about 10 years, leaving that to the Mrs.


Its just a matter of remembering how ya did it six months ago when you move the clock in the car, and as you say I too only have one station on and that's radio 4.
The mobile phone is another mystery, they bought me one with an ICE button (in case of emergency) If I'm in the middle of a field and get cast like a big fat owd ewe, all I got to do is press the ICE button it first call the house, then will call me draughters house and about four numbers down if no one answers it calls 999 automatically. When the helicopter lands they pick my phone up and look on the ICE page on my phone (particularly if I have passed out or passed away) and it tells them who I am and also on there about any med history, and the phone numbers of the family.

Up to now I aint got that far down the numbers, but it has been pressed inadvertently a couple of times and had to explain to my panicked family that I pressed it accidentally, by accident and there was no emergency, it gives them piece of mind that they have that leash on me should I accidentally leaving this world too soon.
.
But I know me memory is getting worse


I’m Trying to Remember

I’m going to try to tell you, about the thing forgotten,
All that slipped my mind, unpleasant things so rotten,
It’s just as well it slipped my mind, can’t remember that,
This page it will never get used, till memory it comes back.

I don’t recall that happening, forgot that’s what I said,
Could get into a lot of gripe, I’d remember if I’d bled,
Only need a trigger, to set my mind alight,
Could understand if I were blind, I would have no sight.

Can’t remember what we just said, got to say it twice,
Doesn’t sink in just like that, please give me advice,
I hear alright, goes in my head, soaking in it does not do,
Said again, begin to grasp, the words I must pursue.

Its all a part of getting old, or that is what they say,
Remember well from years ago, when we went out to play,
But last week, even yesterday, whatever did we do,
Need to dredge deep into my mind, I haven’t got a clue.

Owd Fred​
 

Bwcho

Member
Location
Cymru
Can I ask you Fred, with your life experiences in agriculture and the changes you've seen to the industry over the decades and how it currently looks like today - what do you think the future for British Agriculture is?

It's a bad question to ask you I know, especially as with Brexit etc. we don't know what will happen in the next couple of years, let alone beyond. But as an industry commentator who's served his 'apprenticeship' in it, how do you see things panning out?

The wisdom and advice of someone experienced is something I always value.
 

Bruce Almighty

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Warwickshire
A very Small Cog in this World of ours

It’s amazing to realise after all these years what a very small cog we are in this world of ours. It’s only this last few years that we have had a computer and the World Wide Web, with all the information that it contains, and how you can speak to the other side of the world speaking face to face on the screen.
Kids brought up with all the technology have no problem getting the yeds round it, but as an oldun, it takes some time for it to all sink in. Take re-setting the digital clocks about the house, including the one in the car and on the weather station and such like, all have a different sequence of pushing buttons and flashing numbers to be re-set with an OK button of one sort or another. Doing the job every day it would be okay, but only twice a year ya forget the sequence of buttons to press.

Back seventy odd years ago there was the wireless, and I mean wireless, although it did have a an aerial wire draped around the house to the shed down the garden, it was powered by a battery, a glass accumulator with two terminals on top and two loops with a short cord for carrying it when it had to be taken down the local filling station/ garage, to be re-charged. When the commentary of a big boxing match was to be broadcast, there would be a mad rush of everyone who needed the accumulator to be re-charged in readiness for that night. Then it progressed to a mains radio with its three buttons on the front and a dome speaker all built into a cabinet almost as big as a refrigerator.
Then in the early 1950’s we had our first television, in black and white, with its screen rolling up and blinking until father got it tuned in properly, there was only the BBC to watch and that had a test card on in between the odd program they put on in about three periods of the day, one of which was a kids program at tea time, and the others were mainly news programs.
The early telephones were wired via telephone poles and strung across into the houses that needed a phone, the school the shop, the estate and most of the farms, the rest of the village folk had a public telephone kiosk. Some phone lines were party lines that were shared with another house in the village, they had the same number, and had to listen to the pattern of ring tone to know if it was intended for them, if the other person was nosey, they could pick up and listen in to your conversation. Back then they were all just a two digit numbers and you could call anyone in the village without an operator that was marvellous, to ring outside the village you had to ring the operator who would plug you into the number you required, and further afield you may go through a number of operators into the region you required. As more folk wanted a telephone so the numbers were up graded to three digits, then as the exchanges became automated we were six digit numbers, and on again to the familiar ten digit numbers only to be eclipsed by the up and coming mobile phones of which were the size of a house brick.

I saw the first sugar beet harvesters come in, the first combines in our area, the first round the cowshed milk pipe lines into churns in the dairy then eventually into bulk milk tanks, first bulk milk collections, the first cow cubicles invented 1960, and first milking parlours. On tractors, the first with a cabs, just enough to shelter you from the weather, the first Land Rovers were immediately preceded by the American army Jeep, the Land Rovers were demonstrated ploughing harrowing sowing and with a power take off drive, sawing wood on a saw bench. Not many machines were PTO driven back then. I saw the first drum/disc mowers that rapidly took over from the finger bar mowers, the Ferguson tractors were first with the hydraulic ploughs and implements to go with it, then all makes of tractor followed that same idea.

Father was well up to date when he was the first in the local area to have a milking machine, three unit buckets and a spare to change to when one was full, this was 1938. He had broken his arm, so he was a one handed milker, and the local farm merchant’s sales man came calling wanting someone in their area to buy a milking machine, to get the ball rolling, and that was what he did. They installed it and fitted an airline right through the cowsheds, and stayed for the first few milking’s to ensure it all worked at the right vacuum pressure, and soon got others around the local area to purchase one.
We were always brought up to be self-sufficient, in our farming, our repairs and improvements, in our replacement for the milking herd, in hay for the work horses and cows, though when tractors came along he had to buy the fuel. He always commented that when the tractors were resting in the shed, they were not burning/eating fuel like the horses always did, but then again the horses did not use fuel when they were working.

It was drilled into us that you cannot farm without common sense, look at thing how they are, not how you would like them to be, work with the weather it no use going against it and it impossible to get a good seed be when the ground is sad and cold and end up as it dries with large clods of soil that when they dry out are as solid as bricks


Educations What You Want

Educations what you want, or that is what I’m told,
Get on in life and see the world, seek your pot of gold.
More to life than toil and sweat, let others soil their hands,
Let education guide the way, nine till five, five days a week demand.

Over the years most folk done this, for better jobs they travelled,
Men they left the land in droves, off into town they pedalled.
With better money they bought a car, get about much quicker,
Then travelled even further afield, became the city slicker.
Owd Fred​



This is the picture I woke up to first thing one morning, ya wouldna do that in the city, grazing the orchard.



This was taken of the cows and calves down the lane looking through the lower branches of a chestnut tree


So, no I did not leave the land and did not become a city slicker, I followed the family’s tradition of farming, and who knows where the next fifty years will take us with the ones who now have custardy of the land. Twenty cows were the norm in the 1930’s when father started farming and when he retired 1975 it was sixty, then for my generation in the 1990’s a hundred cows was a very large herd.
Now I have just retired 2014 three farms in the village have been amalgamated to form a new herd in two units of three hundred and fifty cows and four hundred and fifty cows ( heading for a thousand cows) all out wintered and all dry over Christmas to calve in February, also rearing all their own replacements.
Almost would have been un-believable just a year or so ago, the same goes with the technology and gadgets such as sat nav’s on tractors that monitor seed and fertilizer according to the strength of the land to obtain the optimum yields.
I am way out of my depth and rapidly becoming out of date, it’s a younger mon’s job (below 60) and it still only works properly with common sense, and the most common sense thing fa me to have done is to retire, should have done it five years ago. While the mind and body are both willing and you are happy to carry on. So now it has happened and I feel happy to sit back and just watch how the modern younger farmers cope, and look closely for how much common sense they use.


One pound of learning requires ten pounds of common sense to apply it.
Persian Proverb


A handful of common sense is worth a bushel of learning.
Author Unknown

Were Burgess's your local merchant Fred ?
 

Owd Fred

Member
Location
Stafford
If there came third world war (god forbid) it won't be owt like WW2. They would only have to target ships bringing in mobile phones and computers for a few months and the younger generation and the white collar folk of the city would collapse instantly.

They would have to maintain a food source far greater than WW2 as the gardens around houses now are none existent, and how many would know what to grow and how to cook it.
My old dad always said it would take a good war to make the government take farming seriously, and that was in the slump of the 1930's and that still hold in todays climate.

War and starvation is only read about in books and papers to folk who have never experienced it, they never appreciate what they do have today in the way of cheap food, it don't matter how much a new phone cost they pay it, just to update it, but moan like hell when food goes up which aint very often.

I think farming will cope and rise to the situation, there are now some very efficient and forward thinking young farmers around who are already showing the way and making use of new technology, in our village now we have a milking parlour with 48 cows a side (96) with two men operating it, with cows (650) out wintered, the same grass area on the six farms that used to cover that had 12 to 15 men milking half that number of cows.

Arable and beef men are also taking great strides in breeding improvements, the greatest of which we saw through the 1950's wheat yields doubled and AI with proven AI bulls got rid of cows with bad feet and pendulous udders, remember those cows with very low udders and front teats pointing east west as thick as ya wrist. The beef side too bares no resemblance to the black Herefords and Angus produced before WW2

Mechanization in feeding and cleaning out, big open sheds with ventilation, all go to make the right environment for the livestock be it hens pigs or cattle, we will cope.
 

Owd Fred

Member
Location
Stafford
Were Burgess's your local merchant Fred ?

Yes the head quarters was in Stafford, they spread all round the country opening branches where they bought out the small local firms, doing what Teso have done, under cutting the opposition where there was any until they went bost then had the monopoly of that area. I think they got top heavy in directors and folded in on themselves (went bost)
 

Owd Fred

Member
Location
Stafford
Were Burgess's your local merchant Fred ?

If you are referring to the merchant who supplied the milking machine mentioned above it was Woodins, Burgesses were only just starting up in the mid 1930's.
At that time, in their yard Woodins they had got a Steam Threshing engine brand new, they were stuck with it, and the customer who had ordered it realised almost too late that the farm tractors could do the same job and handier to manoeuvre.

A chap in our village bought it and used it for his threshing set for a couple of year then then got a Fordson tractor to do the job and parked the steamer up in the field for 30 years,' after that time the wheels had sunk it the ground a foot and turf grown round them.

It was sold for scrap price at his farm sale in the 1950's , the old driver steamed it up on sale day and the buyer drove it home, when it first moved from that spot all grown in, it reared its front wheel five foot off the ground then the rear wheels came out on top.

Next we heard of it, it turned up at Greffins Sale yard about six years ago and was sold for the price of a house, the grandsons of the original buyer went to the sale with some original documents and invoices ,and were reet miffed at the price they had for it compared to what it fetched that day.
 

Bruce Almighty

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Warwickshire
If you are referring to the merchant who supplied the milking machine mentioned above it was Woodins, Burgesses were only just starting up in the mid 1930's.
At that time, in their yard Woodins they had got a Steam Threshing engine brand new, they were stuck with it, and the customer who had ordered it realised almost too late that the farm tractors could do the same job and handier to manoeuvre.

A chap in our village bought it and used it for his threshing set for a couple of year then then got a Fordson tractor to do the job and parked the steamer up in the field for 30 years,' after that time the wheels had sunk it the ground a foot and turf grown round them.

It was sold for scrap price at his farm sale in the 1950's , the old driver steamed it up on sale day and the buyer drove it home, when it first moved from that spot all grown in, it reared its front wheel five foot off the ground then the rear wheels came out on top.

Next we heard of it, it turned up at Greffins Sale yard about six years ago and was sold for the price of a house, the grandsons of the original buyer went to the sale with some original documents and invoices ,and were reet miffed at the price they had for it compared to what it fetched that day.

Yes I was wondering about the milking machine.
I think my Grandad knew Fred Burgess
 

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