Blenky resigns?

Chris F

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If someone more media savvy instigates it, I'll sign a form.

I personally think Tim and Roseanne need more time (they have been in their roles for less than a month) to put fixes in places before triggering this exercise.

But we do need action and I've said that to both of them.
 
You grow cereals iirc? You never consider the varieties on the recc lists, or their ratings for disease resistance, lodging, yield, etc?


I haven't used the AHDB website for a long time. The Cereal herbicide information is from Circa 2000, it's out of date.

AHDB has taken it's eye totally off the ball.
 

Wombat

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Location
East yorks
More than I would in a wild guess, and I treat it as likely painting a fuller picture than if we only had the marketing departments of multinational seed companies' word for it, which is where we'd be if we did away with AHDB.
I think a specific wild @ss guess is about where the recommend lists are at the moment. You pay your money roll the dice and sometimes come up with a pair on ones. Then it’s the usual excuses about how you happened to plant it on a day with “Y” in it in a month of the Gregorian calendar and didn’t spend £250/ha in fungicides hence why it only did 3t. Just look at how many varieties come and go from being the best things since bread was toasted and then quietly disappear.

if the recommended lists are the only reason for keeping the Adhb then I am sorry they are fecked and better get the cv’s polished up
 

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
I think a specific wild @ss guess is about where the recommend lists are at the moment. You pay your money roll the dice and sometimes come up with a pair on ones. Then it’s the usual excuses about how you happened to plant it on a day with “Y” in it in a month of the Gregorian calendar and didn’t spend £250/ha in fungicides hence why it only did 3t

if the recommended lists are the only reason for keeping the Adhb then I am sorry they are fecked and better get the cv’s polished up

The trials do show up varietal weaknesses, albeit sometimes only after a year or two, but a lot of varieties never make it onto those lists to start with. If we lose them, do you think those multinational seed breeders will divulge any of that information to us? Or just sell whatever they can get away with to get a return on their investment?
 

Wombat

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Location
East yorks
The trials do show up varietal weaknesses, albeit sometimes only after a year or two, but a lot of varieties never make it onto those lists to start with. If we lose them, do you think those multinational seed breeders will divulge any of that information to us? Or just sell whatever they can get away with to get a return on their investment?
At least if I just pick a variety off the dartboard it’s on my own back, not thinking you are actually getting something that’s reasonable. I have had a lot of success with random stuff that the merchant happens to have around at the time. If someone is actually taking levy money for it then my expectations are much higher and varieties that disappear are not acceptable after a year or 18months
 

Grass And Grain

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Yorks
You don't need to find a way - it's set out in stone on AHDB website. It's 2555 levy payers for Cereals.


All the forms and guidance are there, for instance:

https://projectblue.blob.core.windows.net/media/Default/About AHDB/Levy information/B4Guidanceonrequestingaballot-cereallevy-1.pdf

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Ooh, aah. 2555, that's not many is it? Recon we can get that.

As you say, they need to be afforded a bit of time to sort RT.

It will be a single issue ballot for me. Sort RT and I'll vote to retain AHDB C&Oilseeds.

Don't sort RT, and I'm out.
 

carbonfibre farmer

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Arable Farmer
I suspect, as @silverfox mentioned previously, there won't be a vote as such on in or out but what direction "we" want them to take.
It'll be a fudge.
They'll decide the questions. In the best PR terms possible, there won't be any "difficult" questions for them.

It'll be left long enough to drag it all out another year at least with "promises" that they are listening 💩 favourite political speak to kick it into the long grass.

In the meantime, working out how to change the voting rules, to make it ALL but impossible to illicit change by levy payers.
 

carbonfibre farmer

Member
Arable Farmer
I personally think Tim and Roseanne need more time (they have been in their roles for less than a month) to put fixes in places before triggering this exercise.

But we do need action and I've said that to both of them.

Ooh, aah. 2555, that's not many is it? Recon we can get that.

As you say, they need to be afforded a bit of time to sort RT.

It will be a single issue ballot for me. Sort RT and I'll vote to retain AHDB C&Oilseeds.

Don't sort RT, and I'm out.

I really don't think "they" should be given more time.

Not long in their roles?

I'm sure AIC/RT et all wouldn't give US more time to comply with new regs they have dreamed up.

Strike while the irons hot.

Before 2555 votes becomes watered down to say 5000 votes/industry bodies need to 2nd it to be able to enact a vote for example.
 

Drillman

Member
Mixed Farmer
I really don't think "they" should be given more time.

Not long in their roles?

I'm sure AIC/RT et all wouldn't give US more time to comply with new regs they have dreamed up.

Strike while the irons hot.

Before 2555 votes becomes watered down to say 5000 votes/industry bodies need to 2nd it to be able to enact a vote for example.
Yes no point in letting things drag on!

sharpen them up if nothing else
 

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