Blonde bulls

Davy_g

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I have about 20 embryos and I would happily sell a % off. That said exporting them would be a nightmare. I have had a few local enquiries this winter, we will see.
Its not really the society who need to promote it or otherwise. Its an expensive gamble and every breeder can decide for themselves. It really requires you to have 10 heifers ready as recips.
Different if you are buying embryos as you know your numbers and have the commercial heifers at hand but compare that to taking your best cow or cows out of breeding cycle, the expense of the drugs, semen etc and then getting a poor flush. I have had anything from 0 viable embryos to 20. My average is probably around 4. Then you have to get the cow back incalf. I decided to just breed normally after my first few ventures into flushing.
I asked a friend about buying his old show cow and flushing her. No chance - she will get her day on his farm. Shame.
 

Whitepeak

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Ok so my chances of getting my hands on some are very slim.
I don’t suppose you know which cows/ Bloodlines they have flushed/used?
Would that of been a cow Penelope-Pitstop? I remember seeing her at the highland show she was some cow absolutely huge and very correct.
Do the society not encourage breeders to do this especially with good stock and blood lines?
It’s certainly where other breeds are thriving and easy to get your hands on good genetics and further improve the breed.
Yeah, they were Penelope Pitstop embryos. Think they were by Elite and Genus Hero. We have her grand daughters. The bull we sold in Shrewsbury was a Penelope Pitstop great grandson.
I have about 20 embryos and I would happily sell a % off. That said exporting them would be a nightmare. I have had a few local enquiries this winter, we will see.
Its not really the society who need to promote it or otherwise. Its an expensive gamble and every breeder can decide for themselves. It really requires you to have 10 heifers ready as recips.
Different if you are buying embryos as you know your numbers and have the commercial heifers at hand but compare that to taking your best cow or cows out of breeding cycle, the expense of the drugs, semen etc and then getting a poor flush. I have had anything from 0 viable embryos to 20. My average is probably around 4. Then you have to get the cow back incalf. I decided to just breed normally after my first few ventures into flushing.
I asked a friend about buying his old show cow and flushing her. No chance - she will get her day on his farm. Shame.
We half looked into flushing a couple of our best cows a couple of yrs ago. And like you say the cost and hassle of doing it didn't add up. If we selling bulls for 5k plus they it perhaps makes more sense.
And tbh atm I'm enjoying the challenge of improving the bloodlines we've got. Buying embryos from a proven line doesn't excite me as much.
 

Davy_g

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Co Down
Yeah, they were Penelope Pitstop embryos. Think they were by Elite and Genus Hero. We have her grand daughters. The bull we sold in Shrewsbury was a Penelope Pitstop great grandson.

We half looked into flushing a couple of our best cows a couple of yrs ago. And like you say the cost and hassle of doing it didn't add up. If we selling bulls for 5k plus they it perhaps makes more sense.
And tbh atm I'm enjoying the challenge of improving the bloodlines we've got. Buying embryos from a proven line doesn't excite me as much.
I flushed as insurance against TB. We are now 10 years down the road so those genetics do not excite me any more - being honest and thats why i would sell - no one sells their best heifers right?

Wonder what you put to P/P? Serious show cow of her day - I seen her at the Highland too - awesome - but did she ever breed anything better than herself?
 

FarmerDanny1989

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Scotland
I have about 20 embryos and I would happily sell a % off. That said exporting them would be a nightmare. I have had a few local enquiries this winter, we will see.
Its not really the society who need to promote it or otherwise. Its an expensive gamble and every breeder can decide for themselves. It really requires you to have 10 heifers ready as recips.
Different if you are buying embryos as you know your numbers and have the commercial heifers at hand but compare that to taking your best cow or cows out of breeding cycle, the expense of the drugs, semen etc and then getting a poor flush. I have had anything from 0 viable embryos to 20. My average is probably around 4. Then you have to get the cow back incalf. I decided to just breed normally after my first few ventures into flushing.
I asked a friend about buying his old show cow and flushing her. No chance - she will get her day on his farm. Shame.
I’d be interested to know what breeding of embryos you have?
I get what your saying I have flushed two of my cows previously first one was great 1st flush 9 embryos and second was 5.
the 2nd cow was a disaster tbh and then I couldn’t get her in calf after! So it is a total gamble!
Will your friend flush her? Or does he not do ET work?
 

FarmerDanny1989

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Livestock Farmer
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Scotland
Yeah, they were Penelope Pitstop embryos. Think they were by Elite and Genus Hero. We have her grand daughters. The bull we sold in Shrewsbury was a Penelope Pitstop great grandson.

We half looked into flushing a couple of our best cows a couple of yrs ago. And like you say the cost and hassle of doing it didn't add up. If we selling bulls for 5k plus they it perhaps makes more sense.
And tbh atm I'm enjoying the challenge of improving the bloodlines we've got. Buying embryos from a proven line doesn't excite me as much.
Elite and Genus Hero how are they for breeding? Did they mix well with PP?
Are the cows from her line anything special?

I get that and maybe why other breeders in other breeds do it so much as they do sell a lot of 5k plus bulls and heifers to make it maybe more worth while.
Is there any new bulls with semen collected recently? I know about Plato and Polynices anyone going to give them a go?
 

Whitepeak

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Livestock Farmer
Wonder what you put to P/P? Serious show cow of her day - I seen her at the Highland too - awesome - but did she ever breed anything better than herself?
The daughter we had was by Marstonmill Elton, and she was nothing like her mother, very plain. Dad got her cheap at the Archer's dispersal sale. It's only now we are getting a few generations down the line that we are getting some really nice offspring. My baby heifer for the Three Counties is a P/P great granddaughter. So she is turning into a good buy.
Think P/P had a daughter Barbie Doll who the Archer's showed quite a bit, but never to the same success as P/P. We also have a daughter of Alfie, a P/P son, and she's an awesome cow! My junior heifer this year is her daughter.
 

FarmerDanny1989

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Scotland


Link to the catalogue for the Blonde society sale at Carlisle on Saturday!
Did have time to watch the sale online and for the small amount forward they certainly didn’t lack in quality! About time the blonde breeders started getting good prices for quality cattle! Hopefully this can continue for the breed. Did anyone purchase any?
 

Whitepeak

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Livestock Farmer
Did have time to watch the sale online and for the small amount forward they certainly didn’t lack in quality! About time the blonde breeders started getting good prices for quality cattle! Hopefully this can continue for the breed. Did anyone purchase any?
Sounds like it was a good sale with some quality lots forward. 100% clearance. I've heard that the top few lots all went to commercial herds which is great news.

I haven't seen the sale though as I was showing at Notts County Show yesterday
 

FarmerDanny1989

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Scotland
Sounds like it was a good sale with some quality lots forward. 100% clearance. I've heard that the top few lots all went to commercial herds which is great news.

I haven't seen the sale though as I was showing at Notts County Show yesterday
Might get some show quality calf’s out of that good bunch. Certainly not much blonde X show calf’s to be seen about.

How did you get on?
 

Whitepeak

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Livestock Farmer
Might get some show quality calf’s out of that good bunch. Certainly not much blonde X show calf’s to be seen about.

How did you get on?
Think most Blonde X show calves end up as Lim X on the passport tbh

Very well thanks, my bull got reserve Male Champion and my heifer was reserve Junior Champion. So very pleased for our first time out this season.
A Blonde cow and calf got reserve continental Interbreed 👍
 

FarmerDanny1989

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Think most Blonde X show calves end up as Lim X on the passport tbh

Very well thanks, my bull got reserve Male Champion and my heifer was reserve Junior Champion. So very pleased for our first time out this season.
A Blonde cow and calf got reserve continental Interbreed 👍
Your probably right there!
That’s really good well done!
Have you a big show team this year?
That’s really good for the breed she must be a cracking cow
 

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A man has pleaded guilty at Newtownards Magistrates’ Court to waste offences relating to a bonfire next to the electrical sub-station on the Circular Road in Newtownards, Co. Down.

Gareth Gill (51) of Abbot’s Walk, Newtownards pleaded guilty to two charges under the Waste and Contaminated Land (Northern Ireland) Order 1997, for which he was fined £150 each and ordered to pay a £15 offender’s levy

On June 25, 2018, PSNI officers went to Gill’s yard, where they found a large amount of waste consisting of scrap wood, pallets, carpet and underlay.

Discussion with Northern Ireland Environment Agency (NIEA) officers confirmed the site...
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