Blood sucking ahdb

[50ShedsofHay]

correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t PGRO levy voluntary? It is not part of regulation and statutory instrument that rules AHDB levies.

It's taken automatically by all merchants I know of, or have ever dealt with. Does it get to the PGRO? Who knows. Probably can make a phone call and demand it is removed, but has anyone done that?

Constitutes £300 - 600 per annum, depending on cropping mix. Not really getting much benefit at all on beans now. Recommended list is the only thing I look at - once in a blue moon. Last agronomy guide published 2017 I think.

 

[Smith31]

So, you're blaming the QMS for the rules and regs from govts which killed the small local abattoirs in Scotland and made it impossible for them to update/refurbish or modernise to keep up? Good one

The European regulations requiring abattoir structural improvements came into force in 1993, what relevance they have to QMS in 2020 is beyond me, sorry?

Maybe visit the abattoir where your stock goes or a few supermarkets and see first hand what influence QMS has on the value of your product, which will be next to nothing.

 

[Nithsdale]

The European regulations requiring abattoir structural improvements came into force in 1993, what relevance they have to QMS in 2020 is beyond me, sorry?

Maybe visit the abattoir where your stock goes or a few supermarkets and see first hand what influence QMS has on the value of your product, which will be next to nothing.

You're the one going on about Larry being the saviour and all our abattoirs being owned by Irish... So you tell me what it's got to do with QMS?


Scotch Beef has a premium, and Scotch lamb is top of the UK tree for export.
Local supermarkets - if its UK red meat, its all Scottish with the Scotch assured label.

 

[lloyd]

Price dictates demand not advertising.

Why did that Polish mince not fly
off the shelves then?

 

[fieldfarmer]

Well Phil p I see they said there is a couple of ahdb employees on the forum well a least you have come out maybe you could enlighten us on your salary

Ha ha , if you had been on "today at work" thread you would know he hasn't time for another job.

 

[Smith31]

Why did that Polish mince not fly
off the shelves then?

I give up, please visit smaller butchers and catering butchers chillers and actually see where their stock comes from, everything from poultry to beef.

There are boning plants within the UK at present boning imported lamb. It will sell in huge quantities without advertising.

 

[Smith31]

You're the one going on about Larry being the saviour and all our abattoirs being owned by Irish... So you tell me what it's got to do with QMS?


Scotch Beef has a premium, and Scotch lamb is top of the UK tree for export.
Local supermarkets - if its UK red meat, its all Scottish with the Scotch assured label.

You're product is top end that's why you have buyers from Southern England and Europe, it's got feck all to do with QMS.

Blue heifers and Beltex lambs don't command premium prices as a result of QMS, it is as a result of the farmers hard work. All the levy boards do is shaft the farmer after he has done all the hard work and the animal is ready to sell.

Give 15 tough skinned, smelly Swale tups to QMS to sell and see how far they get.

 

[Nithsdale]

You're product is top end that's why you have buyers from Southern England and Europe, it's got feck all to do with QMS.

Blue heifers and Beltex lambs don't command premium prices as a result of QMS, it is as a result of the farmers hard work. All the levy boards do is shaft the farmer after he has done all the hard work and the animal is ready to sell.

Give 15 tough skinned, smelly Swale tups to QMS to sell and see how far they get.

I don't sell Blues or Beltex. But my lambs are in demand in Europe because they are Scottish. The French want "Ecosse". So yes brand is everything.

The high end restaurants in London pay big for Blackie meat - local business is built upon that very trade! They sell the image of slow grown meat on Heather Hills and the consumer loves it

 

[lloyd]

I give up, please visit smaller butchers and catering butchers chillers and actually see where their stock comes from, everything from poultry to beef.

There are boning plants within the UK at present boning imported lamb. It will sell in huge quantities without advertising.

I thought you did give up cutting a few weeks ago
No one is saying imports arnt being used when the public
dont question where their food comes from but your suggesting the
public only buy on price which isn't altogether true .

 

[thorpe]

Apparently advertising only returns £4 for every pound spent
Not my words

that sounds good ! what am i missing? 75% return i am not an accountant have i got it wrong?

 

[Highland Mule]

that sounds good ! what am i missing? 75% return i am not an accountant have i got it wrong?

400% return. You’re not an accountant.

 

[livestock 1]

that sounds good ! what am i missing? 75% return i am not an accountant have i got it wrong?

Probably the issue is that they don’t get to keep as much of our levy monies if they promote our produce through advertising.

 

[Bury the Trash]

Think you've been living under a rock.
Every product under the sun is advertised.


"Peugeot, the drive of your life"
"The car in front, is a Toyota"
"Ello Tosh, gotta Toshiba?"
"You know when you've been Tango'd"
"Opal Fruits made to make your mouth water"
"A Mars a day helps you work, rest and play"
"I'm Lovin' It"
"Land Rover - the best 4x4xfar"
"reggae reggae sauce"
"Pepperami, its a bit of an animal"
"Strings and Things"
"Baby Bell"
"Make Young's the fish of the day"
"Have you had your Weetabix?"


And those are just off the top of my head. Advertising is huge and very influential.
Apple and Fendt are perceived to be the best through exceptional marketing. They are no better than their competitors, but they did the leg work and now reap their rewards.

 

[Nithsdale]

 

[Bury the Trash]

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They dont make 'em like they used too....

 

[hally]

Advertising is not cheap but allot better than not doing it

 

[livestock 1]

Advertising is not cheap but allot better than not doing it

When did you last see any beef or lamb advertised?
I haven’t seen any

 

[hally]

When did you last see any beef or lamb advertised?
I haven’t seen any

No they keep giving us the same old line that we are not the target audience but I watch tv and read the newspaper where are they putting these advert?

 

[Nithsdale]

When did you last see any beef or lamb advertised?
I haven’t seen any

Like I said, QMS are active. This was on TV regularly in the last year or so

 

[livestock 1]

Good to see this. I feel that they are way ahead of ahdb. I know Kate well. She used to be our vet.