Blood sucking ahdb

Highland Mule

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Livestock Farmer
perhaps he has and what of it if he does ?
Fair comment. I went too far. I’ll respectfully not comment further about such matters, save for correcting lies as I see them.

As many have said, if his campaign stuck to facts, and had some integrity in doing so, it would be easier to respect. Right now, it seems to be about throwing mud and hoping some will stick.
 
We have received scores of comments in with our returns to trigger a ballot,in the first 85 only one was critical of our campaign.One received yesterday was a near neighbour who was late getting his return back on time due to his accountant not having his accounts finalised,this resulted in him being estimated and just like electricity companies they make a over estimation in his case £6,000 ,when they received his return which was in line with last year they wouldn't accept it.The result being he has the forensic accountants in his offices for 2 weeks going through his entire accounts which showed his return was correct,the cost to the ahdb for these accountants £25,000,mind you he does pay £70,000 to horticulture and £40,000 for potatoes a year so the ahdb were still showing a profit.
 

Highland Mule

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Livestock Farmer
Over £14million turnover of veggies and 2,000 acres of spuds (say another £2M turnover?) and he can't get his accounts finalised within the time allotted. Sounds like he's needing a decent account before he worries about the levy body.

But you've got enough letters to trigger a ballot, so congratulations - I'm sure we all look forward to following the progress of that. Do take stock of the advice on here though - stick to verifiable facts and integrity. Have an understanding of those that disagree with you and an open mind about the whole thing. There will be some who want AHDB to remain, and they will have sound reasons for that, so don't treat their opinions and businesses with the level of distain you have done previously.
 
Over £14million turnover of veggies and 2,000 acres of spuds (say another £2M turnover?) and he can't get his accounts finalised within the time allotted. Sounds like he's needing a decent account before he worries about the levy body.

But you've got enough letters to trigger a ballot, so congratulations - I'm sure we all look forward to following the progress of that. Do take stock of the advice on here though - stick to verifiable facts and integrity. Have an understanding of those that disagree with you and an open mind about the whole thing. There will be some who want AHDB to remain, and they will have sound reasons for that, so don't treat their opinions and businesses with the level of distain you have done previously.
Trouble is they don't understand the term playing with a straight bat ,we need to verify who is going to run this ballot ,we also need know who or if there is going to be a independent adjudicator neither of these questions have been answered up to today,the names will not be handed over until they clear these concerns up.
 

Highland Mule

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Livestock Farmer
Trouble is they don't understand the term playing with a straight bat ,we need to verify who is going to run this ballot ,we also need know who or if there is going to be a independent adjudicator neither of these questions have been answered up to today,the names will not be handed over until they clear these concerns up.
That’s not really your choice, in law, is it? But if I were AHDB, I’d be telling you to go forth, given you have shown no evidence that you play with anything approaching a straight bat. Your posts on here have been woefully poor, full of lies and unsubstantiated allegations.

From an outsider, you have no right to dictate anything - moral or legal.
 
That’s not really your choice, in law, is it? But if I were AHDB, I’d be telling you to go forth, given you have shown no evidence that you play with anything approaching a straight bat. Your posts on here have been woefully poor, full of lies and unsubstantiated allegations.

From an outsider, you have no right to dictate anything - moral or legal.
Given that you don't even pay anything to the ahdb you certainly have a lot to say on the subject,I think you are one of these people that argue black is white just for the hell of it,or maybe you are one of these people that wish or want something to happen but could never make it happen.
 

Goweresque

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Trouble is they don't understand the term playing with a straight bat ,we need to verify who is going to run this ballot ,we also need know who or if there is going to be a independent adjudicator neither of these questions have been answered up to today,the names will not be handed over until they clear these concerns up.
Which is why instead of spending all your spare cash on daft polls, you should have retained a pitbull barrister, given him the relevant legislation to bone up on, and then unleashed him on the AHDB once you'd triggered the ballot. Put the fear of God into them that they can't pull the wool over your eyes, that you'll be using judicial review to scrutinise their every move.
 

Highland Mule

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Livestock Farmer
Given that you don't even pay anything to the ahdb you certainly have a lot to say on the subject,I think you are one of these people that argue black is white just for the hell of it,or maybe you are one of these people that wish or want something to happen but could never make it happen.
Hence why I qualified my post as “from an outsider”. You can’t possibly think your posting on here has been impartial and honest, can you?

And that survey you did was laughably one sided with all those leading questions!

Oh, and I don’t argue for no reason, but I do challenge lies whenever I see them - and there’s plenty of disingenuous comments, lies and false allegations throughout your posts.
 

Henarar

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Livestock Farmer
Hence why I qualified my post as “from an outsider”. You can’t possibly think your posting on here has been impartial and honest, can you?

And that survey you did was laughably one sided with all those leading questions!

Oh, and I don’t argue for no reason, but I do challenge lies whenever I see them - and there’s plenty of disingenuous comments, lies and false allegations throughout your posts.
You are not immune from some of that
 
Which is why instead of spending all your spare cash on daft polls, you should have retained a pitbull barrister, given him the relevant legislation to bone up on, and then unleashed him on the AHDB once you'd triggered the ballot. Put the fear of God into them that they can't pull the wool over your eyes, that you'll be using judicial review to scrutinise their every move.
[/. I find it strange that you think it was a daft poll when we have nothing but praise from a lot of farming magazines and journalists,indeed two this week want to do more articles and said our poll was a total shock to the head of ahdb ,why else would these new proposals be rushed out ,their words not mine ,unless of course you are that naive to think 0.45% in the review swayed them ,the poll gave us names,telephone numbers emails and addresses of strong supporters.
 
Hence why I qualified my post as “from an outsider”. You can’t possibly think your posting on here has been impartial and honest, can you?

And that survey you did was laughably one sided with all those leading questions!

Oh, and I don’t argue for no reason, but I do challenge lies whenever I see them - and there’s plenty of disingenuous comments, lies and false allegations throughout your posts.
You can rubbish what we are doing all you like highland mule but at least nick saphir admitted the levy for our sector is wrong who would have thought we would ever hear the head of ahdb utter these words.
 

Highland Mule

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Livestock Farmer
You can rubbish what we are doing all you like highland mule but at least nick saphir admitted the levy for our sector is wrong who would have thought we would ever hear the head of ahdb utter these words.
I don't rubbish it - I lament your ways, and wish you'd not picked the route you have, but I and others have offered advice on how you could perhaps better achieve your aim of a ballot without resorting to such means. Again, I hope you get one, and I have no opinion on the best outcome for your sector, but would be disappointed if it had a negative effect on red meat.
 

Henarar

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Livestock Farmer
I don't believe I've ever made any disingenuous comments, lies or false allegations. And certainly I'd be embarrassed and apologetic if I had. Happy to be shown where I have erred from the standards I aim to achieve, and I will apologise to any who I have libelled.
Yes you have, to me but I did get a half arsed apology so apparently thats ok
 

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