Blood sucking ahdb

[ajd132]

I have to say all this monitor farm stuff, and pushing farmer to farmer knowledge transfer is good. But then the room is full of trade people literally lapping it up. On things like no till and regenerative ag farmers are leading the way, having a load of ‘agronomists’ from companies like agrii getting free information is bad news.

 

[An Gof]

I have to say all this monitor farm stuff, and pushing farmer to farmer knowledge transfer is good. But then the room is full of trade people literally lapping it up. On things like no till and regenerative ag farmers are leading the way, having a load of ‘agronomists’ from companies like agrii getting free information is bad news.

Is it Adam? Much of the R&D work that AHDB does finds it way onto Levy layers farms via their agronomists and advisers. No doubt many do not realise that it was information funded and researched by them. It is why AHDB run their highly successful Agronomist conference each year.
There are many routes to the successful dissemination and implementation of information and research.

 

[White rabbit]

I have to say all this monitor farm stuff, and pushing farmer to farmer knowledge transfer is good. But then the room is full of trade people literally lapping it up. On things like no till and regenerative ag farmers are leading the way, having a load of ‘agronomists’ from companies like agrii getting free information is bad news.

The farmer to farmer knowledge may work for farmers ajd132 but it’s not what growers want, whatever a farmer produces he can usually sell at a price so sharing knowledge probably works. Growers on the other hand have very few buyers just a handful in fact, this is why we try and keep any improvements to ourselves to try and steal a March on our neighbours and even on our friends in the same business, on this farm we know when we put a crop in the ground that an acreage will be ploughed in with no harvesting team ever moving in, this is mainly over supply or weather related, of course we use advice but I doubt any of our advisers would ever think of asking ahdb anything , I have had ahdb people around my kitchen table trying to convince me they were doing a good job , I was prepared to listen but dear o dear you would be better calling off calling Alan titchmarsh they were still in the fourth division. Well at least we are taking slight comfort from mr Saphir coming out and saying the levy is wrong pity it wasn’t highlighted 12 years ago before the lifted £300,000 out of my pocket.

 

[White rabbit]

Is it Adam? Much of the R&D work that AHDB does finds it way onto Levy layers farms via their agronomists and advisers. No doubt many do not realise that it was information funded and researched by them. It is why AHDB run their highly successful Agronomist conference each year.
There are many routes to the successful dissemination and implementation of information and research.

Is there something in the air in Cornwall an gof or have you been on the pop.

 

[ajd132]

Is it Adam? Much of the R&D work that AHDB does finds it way onto Levy layers farms via their agronomists and advisers. No doubt many do not realise that it was information funded and researched by them. It is why AHDB run their highly successful Agronomist conference each year.
There are many routes to the successful dissemination and implementation of information and research.

So what you are saying is farmers are paying advisors and agronomy companies for information they have already paid for through the levy? That seems stupid.

 

[An Gof]

So what you are saying is farmers are paying advisors and agronomy companies for information they have already paid for through the levy? That seems stupid.

Well that’s a choice matter. Do you want to research and read up on the work Ahdb do yourself and engage with them? Or do you prefer it all served up through a consultant or serviced agronomist? Your choice
Either way it’s valuable information for the industry.

 

[ExAHDBstaff]

So what you are saying is farmers are paying advisors and agronomy companies for information they have already paid for through the levy? That seems stupid.

Believe me this is something that is agonised over at AHDB, they fear that it is unfair and that growers won't know where the information has come from but have reasoned that overall it means the ideas from levy funded research will reach far more levy payers this way. Maybe they are regretting that decision now, as higher awareness of their work would be most welcome to them I am sure!

 

[White rabbit]

Well that’s a choice matter. Do you want to research and read up on the work Ahdb do yourself and engage with them? Or do you prefer it all served up through a consultant or serviced agronomist? Your choice
Either way it’s valuable information for the industry.
[/QUOTE it is totally impossible for the ahdb to be able to give any meaningful advice to the horticultural sector or any useful research, on their on admission the haven’t the resources to cover 342 different crops ,divide 8 million by 342 how much is that per crop ,virtually nothing , maybe you could also read the article in private eye by waste bio spreader(we all know who he is) makes interesting reading.

 

[ExAHDBstaff]

I did see that, an awful lot about how much the senior people get paid and not much about the work AHDB produces.

 

[An Gof]

Fo we “really know” who Bio Waste spreader is or are we making an educated guess?

 

[White rabbit]

I did see that, an awful lot about how much the senior people get paid and not much about the work AHDB produces.

When you find out what they really do ex ahdb will you let us know ,we have been searching 12years and not uncovered anything useful yet, they cannot be that happy or they wouldn’t be vowing to change.

 

[White rabbit]

Fo we “really know” who Bio Waste spreader is or are we making an educated guess?

He writes in the farmers weekly from time to time ,we are in contact with him because he hates the nfu and ahdb in equal measure just like ourselves.

I did see that, an awful lot about how much the senior people get paid and not much about the work AHDB produces.

how much work they produce, are you having a laugh I can some it up in two words and the second one is all.

 

[Highland Mule]

He writes in the farmers weekly from time to time ,we are in contact with him because he hates the nfu and ahdb in equal measure just like ourselves.

how much work they produce, are you having a laugh I can some it up in two words and the second one is all.

Maybe if you spent more time engaging with the AHDB and less in communication with tabloid journalist your business would be in a better shape? Engaging, not arguing.

 

[White rabbit]

Maybe if you spent more time engaging with the AHDB and less in communication with tabloid journalist your business would be in a better shape? Engaging, not arguing.

Why on earth would we want to engage with the ahdb this chap knows more than they ever would,obviously you don’t know who bio waste- spreader is.

 

[Highland Mule]

Why on earth would we want to engage with the ahdb this chap knows more than they ever would,obviously you don’t know who bio waste- spreader is.

I don’t, and have no interest in tabloid journalists either. But go on, how many emergency approvals did he arrange last year? What’s the website for his parasite tracking service?

Your attitude with respect to AHDB speaks volumes though - whilst they might have some failings, you most certainly do !

 

[White rabbit]

I don’t, and have no interest in tabloid journalists either. But go on, how many emergency approvals did he arrange last year? What’s the website for his parasite tracking service?

Your attitude with respect to AHDB speaks volumes though - whilst they might have some failings, you most certainly do !

Why would I be interested in parasite tracking ,mind you I probably paying for it,ahdb did 2 for horticulture last year neither for my benefit,I cannot afford to play Santa clause for other sectors.

 

[Highland Mule]

Why would I be interested in parasite tracking ,mind you I probably paying for it,ahdb did 2 for horticulture last year neither for my benefit,I cannot afford to play Santa clause for other sectors.

Its not all about you, you, you. I was asking for myself, since you’d told me he knew more than them.

Stick to the other question then - how many emergency approvals?

 

[White rabbit]

Its not all about you, you, you. I was asking for myself, since you’d told me he knew more than them.

Stick to the other question then - how many emergency approvals?

If l am paying who else should it be about ,2 emau ,Stephen Carr.

 

[Highland Mule]

If l am paying who else should it be about ,2 emau ,Stephen Carr.

In English?

 

[White rabbit]

In English?
[/QUOTe which bit do want translating