Blood sucking ahdb

Spud

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Arable Farmer
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YO62
That’s your prerogative but if I was you I would start looking elsewhere for information on how to grow potatoes.

You're not me though are you?
You've still not grasped what the AHDB is about have you?
Sometimes I wish that I knew everything about everything and everybody like you do, then I give my head a shake and go back to being a normal decent human being, without a vendetta.
 
You're not me though are you?
You've still not grasped what the AHDB is about have you?
Sometimes I wish that I knew everything about everything and everybody like you do, then I give my head a shake and go back to being a normal decent human being, without a vendetta.
It will soon be what it was about.
 
Do you think that will be the way it will go or will the gov try and keep it going to keep folk in work ?
what at the expense of growers, they say they want more home produced food well if it’s veg they want that could become very difficult. Just look at the agriland article with a statement from a large carrot who is saying his levy is £20,000 which is more than the profit from the farm this cannot carry on.( I have just been told that the article is on another thread.
 

Spud

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Arable Farmer
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YO62
what at the expense of growers, they say they want more home produced food well if it’s veg they want that could become very difficult. Just look at the agriland article with a statement from a large carrot who is saying his levy is £20,000 which is more than the profit from the farm this cannot carry on.( I have just been told that the article is on another thread.

If a large carrot grower is making less than £20k profit his levy won't be his only problem
 
If a large carrot grower is making less than £20k profit his levy won't be his only problem
This is the reason we cannot afford the ahdb creaming large sums out of business, he looks to be running a very professional operation and would be making £40,000 but for funding staff at the ahdb, if you look on letter to the editor you can see for yourself.
 

Highland Mule

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This is the reason we cannot afford the ahdb creaming large sums out of business, he looks to be running a very professional operation and would be making £40,000 but for funding staff at the ahdb, if you look on letter to the editor you can see for yourself.

I'm calling BS on that. Levy is 0.45% of turnover, so if profit is the same then said grower deserves to be out of business. £4.5M turnover and only £20k profit ?!? Sounds like they're either a very poor business or have very good accountants - but neither is an asset to the country.
 

Spud

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Arable Farmer
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YO62
This is the reason we cannot afford the ahdb creaming large sums out of business, he looks to be running a very professional operation and would be making £40,000 but for funding staff at the ahdb, if you look on letter to the editor you can see for yourself.

I'd expect a 'large scale carrot grower' with a £4.5m turnover to have a profit larger than sub1% - why take all the risk for that bit? #wakeuptime
 
I'd expect a 'large scale carrot grower' with a £4.5m turnover to have a profit larger than sub1% - why take all the risk for that bit? #wakeuptime
We have large scale veg producers close to us who lose between one million and two million every year ,they are farming between 10,000 to 16,000 acres so that makes the carrot grower look quite good.
 

Highland Mule

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Livestock Farmer
We have large scale veg producers close to us who lose between one million and two million every year ,they are farming between 10,000 to 16,000 acres so that makes the carrot grower look quite good.

No, they're still very poor. Unless it's a tax dodge and they're renting land off themselves at above market value or some such dodge. As you describe it, it's unsustainable, stupid and should not be encouraged.
 

Sandpit Farm

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Derbyshire
This is the reason we cannot afford the ahdb creaming large sums out of business, he looks to be running a very professional operation and would be making £40,000 but for funding staff at the ahdb, if you look on letter to the editor you can see for yourself.

I must have this wrong. The dairy equivalent of this is a farm with 4,200 cows producing 8000 litres each. £40,000 profit would be a worry. The average herd size is 150 cows. I can't think of many single site businesses whose shareholders would be happy with that figure.

Even just taking the cows as the only 'tenant type capital' in that situation, that's a return of 0.006% for a KPI that a business should be performing at 20%.... and I only took the cows as capital - I didn't even consider equipment, stocks and money in the bank.
 

Spud

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YO62
We have large scale veg producers close to us who lose between one million and two million every year ,they are farming between 10,000 to 16,000 acres so that makes the carrot grower look quite good.

If they're losing over a mill every year, why don't they do something about it?
Besides, I doubt they'd admit it to you anyway. #bovinearoma
 
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simon w

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Mixed Farmer
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Hayling Island
I have now received my ballot form for the potato levy. The only question on it is yes or no so given this ballot is anonymous how can the ahdb get the figures on the amount of levy the horticultural voters paid, there must have been a data breach.
 

Highland Mule

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Livestock Farmer
I have now received my ballot form for the potato levy. The only question on it is yes or no so given this ballot is anonymous how can the ahdb get the figures on the amount of levy the horticultural voters paid, there must have been a data breach.

There will be a unique number on it that allows correlation to your details, but only by the independent voting administrators - like there is on general election voting forms, except even more anonymous.
 

simon w

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Hayling Island
There will be a unique number on it that allows correlation to your details, but only by the independent voting administrators - like there is on general election voting forms, except even more anonymous.
Thanks Highland Mule I can see the number but I still can't understand how or if the ahdb should know how they voted if it is a anonymous and not in the ballot form. There has been no mention of them collecting other details,This must be a data breach.
 

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