Bloody thieving gits and folk who deal with them

johnspeehs

Member
Location
Co Antrim
Local hard working farmer lost 3 ton of calf milk replacer a week ago or so, they loaded it into his horse box, bit of work involved in that.
What makes me mad is they must have known another farmer somewhere who was willing to buy it off them, they didn't do that on the off chance of being able to sell it down the pub.
 

bluepower

Member
Livestock Farmer
They know they can get off with it and law in criminals favour. If they were in America and the farmer could shoot them if they found them. They'd think twice.....
I have lived next door to a thieving git farmer for the last 20 years. He would nick or get his mates to nick anything from silage wrap to electric fencing to telescopic handler, tractors, mini digger, the list goes on.
Last year he and his mates got knicked and it has just all been to crown court. He pleaded guilty to receiving several large items and they are all due to be sentenced later in the tear . Nothing but a custodial sentence would make me feel happy. As far as I am concerned they can lock him up and throw away the key. Knowing our legal system they will probably send them all on a fortnights holiday and buy them an ice cream with a flake on top!
It is not pleasant living next to a den of thieves.
 

Danllan

Member
Location
Sir Gar / Carms
I saw that theft crimes have about a 90% success rate.
That is 90% never get any successful prosecution!
The chances of the police actually investigating in the first place is not good here. They tend to just give a crime number so you can claim on the insurance and that's as far as it goes.

There is less of a problem with prosecution, rather it is in the fact that very, very few as a percentage get caught - obviously I can't give stat's about an unknown, but former 'travelling' clients from near Luton once guesstimated for me that they got caught about one in fifty times. Many of them aren't literate, but they certainly can count so it could well be a reliable figure.

The second problem is recidivism (repeat offending / past history) due to poor sentencing practice by many - I think most - judges (from Mag's upwards). @borderterribles mentioned Sharia, I know that's tongue in cheek, but we have perfectly good law as it stands, just a bunch of liberal-apologists who whine a lot and prevent its being applied to its maximum, and therefore most preventative, effect. :banghead::banghead::banghead:
 

johnspeehs

Member
Location
Co Antrim
Well there is no longer a fear of the law, they know they will get away with a suspended sentence as they don't have room for them in the prison system., a few months hard labour is what they need, might buck up their ideas but then that would go against their human rights ffs.
 

joe soapy

Member
Location
devon
Well there is no longer a fear of the law, they know they will get away with a suspended sentence as they don't have room for them in the prison system., a few months hard labour is what they need, might buck up their ideas but then that would go against their human rights ffs.

Why would you house thousands of fit blokes housed at great expense and then employ outside contractors for building and maintanance work
 

Grassman

Member
Location
Derbyshire
If only common sense would be allowed. Offenders need a very short, sharp shock.
Three months hard labour instead of eighteen months of what they have now. No communal areas. No electric. Live in tents. Do their own cooking and washing. Visitors only seen through barriers.
Make it a totally horrible place to be and they won't be keen on going back. Word would soon get round!
 
If only common sense would be allowed. Offenders need a very short, sharp shock.
Three months hard labour instead of eighteen months of what they have now. No communal areas. No electric. Live in tents. Do their own cooking and washing. Visitors only seen through barriers.
Make it a totally horrible place to be and they won't be keen on going back. Word would soon get round!
A month of that should be plenty for a first offence, treble for second offence, treble again for third offence and so on, they'll either learn or live a miserable existence, the choice is theirs.
 
Local hard working farmer lost 3 ton of calf milk replacer a week ago or so, they loaded it into his horse box, bit of work involved in that.
What makes me mad is they must have known another farmer somewhere who was willing to buy it off them, they didn't do that on the off chance of being able to sell it down the pub.
We just don't know how they are going to sell it on, it could be a farmer who will use it himself, it could be a small merchant who will sell it to farmers who will buy in good faith. Unless they are caught we will never know.
 

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