Blown feed acceptable size?

[Farmer_Joe]

Sadly (on this occasion) I decided to try a new feed firm this year (carrs), hearing great things about their feed and the rep often asking if would give them ago, so i thought what not!

So got some blow in my bin.

Usually i have carry over so used the last tonne of my ewedale rolls then got onto new stuff, the diameter of the carrs stuff is slightly smaller but they were mostly broken and lots of bits that no longer represented a pellet within, just look like they have had a good battering! noticeably soft too/easy to snap.

not sure if it’s possible to see here but in the corners there’s loads of small bits and dust , they agreed they were not upto std and here they are been sucked back onto wagon to be replaced, you can see the odd ewedale roll in there!

so here’s a view of the feed on the wagon of the new or replacement feed before been blow in,

They look extremely short and loads of little bits in again? considering it’s jiggled about on wagon from Lancaster I can imagine bottom worse again? and its yet to be blown into the bin

Apparently after more phone calls this is the std of carrs feed and if they took it back the next load could be as bad again?

Now to be clear the reps have been absolutely first class and extremely helpful but those above have In my view have had a very poor response.

It’s off through a snacker aswel so needs to be right or it will be lost into ground,

ive sent it back as once its blown into the bin cant see it being any better than the first lot, which was universally agreed was not upto std?

what do you guys think of it?

 

[Werzle]

Both look ok to me. We used to feed barley, cake and beetpulp shreds on the ground in good weather and they ate everything.

 

[AftonShepherd]

Used Carrs for the last 3 years and always thought there was a lot of broken bits, dust etc. Changed to Harbor this year and almost too hard, I can hardly shut the slider on the snacker!

 

[Farmer_Joe]

Interesting,

i have to say ive never had feed that so 'broken' from Jamesons or Iansons in the past but they are all i have ever used before carrs?

 

[Pennine Ploughing]

Interesting,

i have to say ive never had feed that so 'broken' from Jamesons or Iansons in the past but they are all i have ever used before carrs?

Can you please pm me the tickets of the rolls

 

[Davy_g]

Prrof of the pudding is in the eating i suppose.
Then again if you are not happy now you generally will always be miffed.

 

[Aspiring Peasants]

I've found there's a tendency for Carrs feed to be like that as well and worse with rolls. It doesn't take much dust to affect me and so I've switched to I'ansons sheep feed in recent years. Their pellets are much better.

 

[Renaultman]

Rolls are notoriously hard to make right, and keep right and blow. Company I used to deliver for screen everything as it goes in to the truck.

 

[Pennine Ploughing]

Rolls are notoriously hard to make right, and keep right and blow. Company I used to deliver for screen everything as it goes in to the truck.

Yes this is correct, and that is why I asked for the tickets to compare the ingredients, as the formula can go a long way to the outcome of quality of roll, for instance more molasses and less hi Pro soya makes a better roll, it seems the likes of hi Pro soya makes a more crumbly roll when less molasses is in the mix, you need to see the tickets of ingredients to compare.
As regards feeding rolls out doors, I have seen a few farmers feed rolls to ewes, yet after lambing mix rolls and lamb pellets together to feed through the snacker, it's a bugger when you get to the farm, and say the rolls go in the bin, but where the lamb pellets go, they reply, there meant to be mixed, this is for the early lamb crop to get them started on hard feed, and farmers say that its is all cleaned up no waste,
You would be surprised how clean it is all hoovered up with no waste, yet as many know, it don't matter how good the rolls or any hard feed is, there not keen on it once there is plenty of good grass

 

[Pistonbroke]

Quite often looks a bad lot at first if the bin was close to empty because the rolls hit the sides and break up and also sand blast old feed. Had some bocm rolls once and they were rubbish. They didn't come and get them back they just didn't charge for them. After a ton was used out it improved a lot bit I forgot to tell them

 

[Farmer_Joe]

Quite often looks a bad lot at first if the bin was close to empty because the rolls hit the sides and break up and also sand blast old feed. Had some bocm rolls once and they were rubbish. They didn't come and get them back they just didn't charge for them. After a ton was used out it improved a lot bit I forgot to tell them

They were just as bad all the way through!

I watched for a while as he took them out, I was hoping they would improve,

feeding off the ground when it is dryer would be ok I.e after lambing but now they really need to be right, and especially at over £300 per tonne,

interesting mentioning the screen someone else said they should be screened…

seems like perhaps it’s the norm for them I only wish I knew prior to ordering

 

[Alias]

Our mill rang up last week to say that they were struggling to make a decent roll this year with the raw materials they had available. Pelleting them twice would have helped but isn’t practical in their mill. We decided to take them as nuts this year rather than rolls. I should be able to find some clean ground each day on the hill, so they should be cleaned up ok.

 

[Farmer_Joe]

Our mill rang up last week to say that they were struggling to make a decent roll this year with the raw materials they had available. Pelleting them twice would have helped but isn’t practical in their mill. We decided to take them as nuts this year rather than rolls. I should be able to find some clean ground each day on the hill, so they should be cleaned up ok.

having a heads up would be useful, someone hinted to they accept something like 18% down to 8% wheat, but the process remains the same, this would make them dryer or softer,

i wish they had just said we are struggling, no harm in that, but i would have asked for a sample first and taken if from there.

 

[Renaultman]

having a heads up would be useful, someone hinted to they accept something like 18% down to 8% wheat, but the process remains the same, this would make them dryer or softer,

i wish they had just said we are struggling, no harm in that, but i would have asked for a sample first and taken if from there.

I think there must be less rapemeal available and this has to be subbed with Distillers grains and soya.

 

[Lazy Eric]

Sadly (on this occasion) I decided to try a new feed firm this year (carrs), hearing great things about their feed and the rep often asking if would give them ago, so i thought what not!

So got some blow in my bin.

Usually i have carry over so used the last tonne of my ewedale rolls then got onto new stuff, the diameter of the carrs stuff is slightly smaller but they were mostly broken and lots of bits that no longer represented a pellet within, just look like they have had a good battering! noticeably soft too/easy to snap.
View attachment 1020668
not sure if it’s possible to see here but in the corners there’s loads of small bits and dust , they agreed they were not upto std and here they are been sucked back onto wagon to be replaced, you can see the odd ewedale roll in there!

so here’s a view of the feed on the wagon of the new or replacement feed before been blow in,
View attachment 1020670
They look extremely short and loads of little bits in again? considering it’s jiggled about on wagon from Lancaster I can imagine bottom worse again? and its yet to be blown into the bin

Apparently after more phone calls this is the std of carrs feed and if they took it back the next load could be as bad again?

Now to be clear the reps have been absolutely first class and extremely helpful but those above have In my view have had a very poor response.

It’s off through a snacker aswel so needs to be right or it will be lost into ground,

ive sent it back as once its blown into the bin cant see it being any better than the first lot, which was universally agreed was not upto std?

what do you guys think of it?

Believe me ewedale gold isn’t very good this year, a good product but very dusty and crumbly , seem to be doing f**k all about it.

 

[Suffolk Serf]

I used to use 27t per week of rolls for feeding outdoor pigs. The mill was quite good at it but the diets had to be formulated with roll manufacture in mind.
Like most outdoor pig people, we changed to 6mm pellets fed in a trough when they made the 6mm diet cheaper than the rolls.
Throwing broken rolls into mud wasn't a particularly cost effective use of feed!

 

[kill]

Sadly (on this occasion) I decided to try a new feed firm this year (carrs), hearing great things about their feed and the rep often asking if would give them ago, so i thought what not!

So got some blow in my bin.

Usually i have carry over so used the last tonne of my ewedale rolls then got onto new stuff, the diameter of the carrs stuff is slightly smaller but they were mostly broken and lots of bits that no longer represented a pellet within, just look like they have had a good battering! noticeably soft too/easy to snap.
View attachment 1020668
not sure if it’s possible to see here but in the corners there’s loads of small bits and dust , they agreed they were not upto std and here they are been sucked back onto wagon to be replaced, you can see the odd ewedale roll in there!

so here’s a view of the feed on the wagon of the new or replacement feed before been blow in,
View attachment 1020670
They look extremely short and loads of little bits in again? considering it’s jiggled about on wagon from Lancaster I can imagine bottom worse again? and its yet to be blown into the bin

Apparently after more phone calls this is the std of carrs feed and if they took it back the next load could be as bad again?

Now to be clear the reps have been absolutely first class and extremely helpful but those above have In my view have had a very poor response.

It’s off through a snacker aswel so needs to be right or it will be lost into ground,

ive sent it back as once its blown into the bin cant see it being any better than the first lot, which was universally agreed was not upto std?

what do you guys think of it?

I wish my bin looked as good and as clean as that . Not that my cows ever reject their cake or dust!!!!

 

[Farmer_Joe]

thing is when were all looking at 300+ per tonne i want something that meets a reasonable std,

some of this was fine when it was around 100 per tonne we are in a different league now cost wise.

I have had ewedale before with dust and was promptly compensated for the problem (was a cracking rep at the time one for the reasons i changed was him leaving), i really hope it meets its normal std this year

To be fair i must add as above the reps and wagon drivers (3 driver so far!) from carrs are probably the most pleasant and helpful ive ever met, just shame the nuts are broken.

 

[Farmer_Joe]

Seems only fair to post the Jameson’s for comparison arrived today, looked loads better through portals on wagon before we began and here’s first 1/4 of bag out of empty bin, not shaken it or anything as would not be fair comparison literally as it came out of spout.

Looks good to me very little dust out of bin vent when blown in to, why did I change again

 

[Jonny_2]

Believe me ewedale gold isn’t very good this year, a good product but very dusty and crumbly , seem to be doing f**k all about it.

Been spot on here this year, and best value when I had a ring round.