Bomb disposal - Advice Please

Y Fan Wen

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Not sure who built the best bombs during WW2 but the funny thing is they can all go bang and fu#k your day up 70 odd years later .
Max
You built the best bombs in the first half and then we caught up.
The dept of housing made the totally innocent remark in an interdepartmental memo that German bombs were more powerful than GB.
The other dept asked what they meant by that statement. It was only then that it was realised that Germany and the Royal Navy was using aluminised explosive and the Army and RAF were not.
 
@DFC @DFC2 is the bomb still in the pond?
It's time for an update.

Does it matter?

The way things are going, there may be a lot more and deeper craters, which in due course become ponds in the foreseeable future.

Is it wishful thinking on my part to hope that London will just be a Big Pond, unless they start getting their act together, and arm Ukraine, and spend more money on defence?

Britain is a sitting duck and Russia with conventional bombers could destroy most of the Control and Command infrastructure with one bombing raid. The UK simply does not have the capability to defend itself.

I just hope they concentrate on London and military targets.

IANTO
 
Does it matter?

The way things are going, there may be a lot more and deeper craters, which in due course become ponds in the foreseeable future.

Is it wishful thinking on my part to hope that London will just be a Big Pond, unless they start getting their act together, and arm Ukraine, and spend more money on defence?

Britain is a sitting duck and Russia with conventional bombers could destroy most of the Control and Command infrastructure with one bombing raid. The UK simply does not have the capability to defend itself.

I just hope they concentrate on London and military targets.

IANTO
In this case you really don't know what you're talking about. In a work capacity I visited sites and bases you wouldn't think existed, and take it from me, the taxpayers money has been spent without compromise, making Britain one of the last countries anyone would want to fu#k with. So much so it makes me sick.
 
The trick is to believe it will not happen, if you can't do that then accept you have no control over it so carry on regardless.
You will drive yourself insane(r) worrying about such things.

Or just don't watch the news or read papers etc. Ignorance probably is bliss in such matters.

Dream on, and play the Ostrich. Stick your head in the sand, and kiss your arse goodbye.

If you believe you have no control, then why (presuming you do) exercise your vote.

In theory at least we are a Democracy and if the Voters told their MP's that we should arm Ukraine, and the Kurds, who are by far the best at countering ISIS, then it will happen.

I am not a lone voice. Liam Fox, and NATO commanders are calling for the same thing.

It will happen if we all take your attitude.

Please try and follow the views of Military Specialists etc.

IANTO
 
In this case you really don't know what you're talking about. In a work capacity I visited sites and bases you wouldn't think existed, and take it from me, the taxpayers money has been spent without compromise, making Britain one of the last countries anyone would want to fu#k with. So much so it makes me sick.

OK. Prove it. I have many contacts, and know what I am talking about.

How many planes have the UK to intercept Russian Bombers?

How many Bombers do Russia Have?

Antiquated British Fighters are outnumbered by at least 10 to 1 by Russian Bombers, without any Russian Fighter Support. Sheer numbers as has been admitted means that most would get through to their targets. Hopefully London and the Home Counties.

The British Response comes down to 3? Nuclear Submarines, of which only 1? is at sea at any time. I don't give a sh!t, as I can trace my family back for a thousand years, and I am from a line of survivors.

We've seen Invaders come and go, and still survive.

If HMG cannot get it's act together, then so be it. Russia would be just the next Overlord.

It might be the best thing that could happen.

All Empires fall, and Wales, Scotland and NI are last vestiges of the English Empire.

Goodbye England! I doubt if we would be any worse off under Russia.

IANTO
 
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Woolgatherer

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Angus
Going back to the bomb in the pond, could you draft a piece for the newspapers, telling the whole story including the police refusing to notify the bomb squad. Take it into the police station and ask for the name of the officer in charge "to put on your press release". You might find they'll suddenly decide to be better safe than sorry!
 

Kidds

Member
Horticulture
Dream on, and play the Ostrich. Stick your head in the sand, and kiss your arse goodbye.

If you believe you have no control, then why (presuming you do) exercise your vote.

In theory at least we are a Democracy and if the Voters told their MP's that we should arm Ukraine, and the Kurds, who are by far the best at countering ISIS, then it will happen.

I am not a lone voice. Liam Fox, and NATO commanders are calling for the same thing.

It will happen if we all take your attitude.

Please try and follow the views of Military Specialists etc.

IANTO
As you like but at 2am I am fast asleep rather than sitting up worrying about such things.
Tell the Americans to stop siting missiles ever close to Russia's borders and the world would be a safer place.
 

RobFZS

Member
Going back to the bomb in the pond, could you draft a piece for the newspapers, telling the whole story including the police refusing to notify the bomb squad. Take it into the police station and ask for the name of the officer in charge "to put on your press release". You might find they'll suddenly decide to be better safe than sorry!
fk dat, they had their chance, no point living in the age of 'lessons will be learnt'' and none ever being learnt
 
As you like but at 2am I am fast asleep rather than sitting up worrying about such things.
Tell the Americans to stop siting missiles ever close to Russia's borders and the world would be a safer place.
I had a school mate who took his own life back in 1983, and it seemed that thinking about impending Armageddon became an obsession and pushed him over the edge (it was a time of cruise missiles and star wars in the papers all the time).
I really can't imagine a scenario where lumbering Russian bombers and their escorts drop bombs on London while outnumbered RAF fighters valiantly try to shoot them down, like a rerun of 1940. The idea was already becoming obsolete 70 years ago with the V2, and led to the cancellation of all sorts of advanced combat planes in the 1957 defence review, when the Military experts decided that future world wars would rapidly turn to missile exchanges and the days of manned combat aircraft were coming to an end, except in smaller regional conflicts. I think a reduction in our conventional forces makes US more dangerous to outsiders , as an attack on the UK would result either in us having to take it lying down, or escalation to the use of our nuclear missiles with very little leeway in the middle.
 

Kidds

Member
Horticulture
Very sorry to hear about your school mate Fred but that was pretty my point. Fretting over it changes nothing and can send you mad.
It would have been around that time as a young man that I too was worried about the impending Armageddon that was predicted. I remember asking my mum about it and she said it had always been the same. In her day it had been the Cuban missile crisis.
She gave the very advice that I suggested earlier in the thread. Works for me.
 

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