Bomb proof tractor

valtra

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Location
cumbria
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jg123

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Mixed Farmer
The "bombproof" ones are making daft money. Personally id go newer for not much more money, just go basic spec, manual spools etc. Have owned a case mx and nh tm and both of them had more issues than our puma and t7 have had at the same hours. The upgrade in comfort is huge tho.

I guarantee in 10yrs everyone will say remember the old pumas and t7 they were bombproof if only we kept them.
 

ewald

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Arable Farmer
Location
Mid-Lincs
A few minutes, have you driven one recently? see my comment above on chocolate transmissions too
I still run a 956 - not up to modern standards of comfort and ergonomics, obviously, but pretty respectable for its age.
Can't comment about the chocolate transmission - ours has been reliable (I may live to regret saying that!) and they are very well thought of locally
 

Fragonard

Member
The "bombproof" ones are making daft money. Personally id go newer for not much more money, just go basic spec, manual spools etc. Have owned a case mx and nh tm and both of them had more issues than our puma and t7 have had at the same hours. The upgrade in comfort is huge tho.

I guarantee in 10yrs everyone will say remember the old pumas and t7 they were bombproof if only we kept them.
Are the MX totally Case, before New Holland became involved?
 

Farmer_Joe

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Livestock Farmer
Location
The North
The "bombproof" ones are making daft money. Personally id go newer for not much more money, just go basic spec, manual spools etc. Have owned a case mx and nh tm and both of them had more issues than our puma and t7 have had at the same hours. The upgrade in comfort is huge tho.

I guarantee in 10yrs everyone will say remember the old pumas and t7 they were bombproof if only we kept them.
Totally agree with this, some of the heaps listed as reliable make me cringe, even imagining driving them, god knows how reliable they will be at the ages there at now with drying up oil seals and the like! Plus parts none existent,

go newer higher hours if moneys tight.
 
The "bombproof" ones are making daft money. Personally id go newer for not much more money, just go basic spec, manual spools etc. Have owned a case mx and nh tm and both of them had more issues than our puma and t7 have had at the same hours. The upgrade in comfort is huge tho.

I guarantee in 10yrs everyone will say remember the old pumas and t7 they were bombproof if only we kept them.
The ironic thing is everyone obsesses over the older tractors yet mocks the early t6 and t7's for example as NH didn't move on and basically kept rehashing the same old basic tractor in new clothes. There comes a point where age has to be a factor and you'll struggle to find really good examples as age will take its toll.
 

mtx.jag

Member
Location
pembs
Are the MX totally Case, before New Holland became involved?
A mx is basically a 51 series maxxum in a party frock,so it’s a case 👍
McCormick mtx series is basically the same tractor bar a few mods and upgrades.
MXM series maxxum was a red TM,I think the CNH merger was around the millennium.
we got a lot of parts for ours from the new Holland dealer as it was closer than the case dealer.
 

Spud

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Arable Farmer
Location
YO62
The biggest difference is the McCormick MTX has a Perkins engine, whereas the MX has a Cummins
Lol at the party frock comment, finally the old Davie Broon esqe Explorer cab got put to bed!
 

mtx.jag

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Location
pembs
The biggest difference is the McCormick MTX has a Perkins engine, whereas the MX has a Cummins
Lol at the party frock comment, finally the old Davie Broon esqe Explorer cab got put to bed!
Ummmm no.. our mtx135 is Cummins.
Some models early models like the mtx140 were Perkins because of copyright as the mx was still being built.
 

Fragonard

Member
A mx is basically a 51 series maxxum in a party frock,so it’s a case 👍
McCormick mtx series is basically the same tractor bar a few mods and upgrades.
MXM series maxxum was a red TM,I think the CNH merger was around the millennium.
we got a lot of parts for ours from the new Holland dealer as it was closer than the case dealer.
What models and power were the 5100 series?
 

mtx.jag

Member
Location
pembs
What models and power were the 5100 series?
From memory
5120 was 4 pot turbo 95hp
5130 was straight 6 105 hp
5140 was 6 turbo 111 hp
5150 was 6 turbo 125hp
We had 2 x 5130,1x 5140 3x 5150
Two of which were “pro” models
Crown and pinion problems were fairly common but all ours had been sorted early on in life. Our first 5130 had an after market turbo fitted.we kept that to 13,800 hours with no problems mechanically
 

Sebastian77

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Nottingham
Plus and Pro models have Neutral on the shuttle. We've a 5140 that has both gear selectors mechanical, and a 5150 (not plus/pro) powershift. Both have been here for near enough 25 years now.

Both have needed little work, king pin bearings need doing but the carrero axle is very common across a large range of tractors, also had to do the front diff on the 5150 and had to ship a new one from Italy, but it wasn't even expensive and took less than a day to change. But I wouldn't call the powershift models bomb proof, ours has had gremlins in the range changes the whole time we've owned it, sometimes just refuses to go in reverse, had to change the range pressure switches many times and are actually very expensive now. Definitely their weak point.
 

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