Border Leicester

[Pollman]

Anyone having problems breeding border Leicester sheep? Very high Barran rate , then lambs not getting up and going.

 

[spin cycle]

Anyone having problems breeding border Leicester sheep? Very high Barran rate , then lambs not getting up and going.

could be toxoplasmosis....get a blood test on ewes.....welcome to the forum BTW and good luck

 

[Pollman]

All the rest of the commercial flock are fine and run with the borders , but thanks will test them.

 

[Agrivator]

All the rest of the commercial flock are fine and run with the borders , but thanks will test them.

Border Leicesters need to be treated as if they are Bluefaced Leicesters - with kindness, sympathy, tolerance and tender loving care. But a New Zealander or a shepherdlesser will be along shortly to provide contrary advice.

Although they still need to be tested in case they have any deficiencies/diseases which are causing poor performance.

 

[Bury the Trash]

I think my get up and go just got up and went

 

[unlacedgecko]

Border Leicesters need to be treated as if they are Bluefaced Leicesters - with kindness, sympathy, tolerance and tender loving care. But a New Zealander or a shepherdlesser will be along shortly to provide contrary advice.

Although they still need to be tested in case they have any deficiencies/diseases which are causing poor performance.

A shepherdlesser?

 

[jendan]

Anyone having problems breeding border Leicester sheep? Very high Barran rate , then lambs not getting up and going.

Have a word with E.S. Lady from near Middlesboro i think.(maybe near @Northeastfarmer neck of the woods) She might give you a few tips.

 

[Woolless]

A shepherdlesser?

I think he means someone that doesn't want to pi55 around endlessly mollycoddling their sheep but I await the proper reply with interest.

@Pollman are these problems just the result of inbreeding? @Agrivator has a point, in that inbreeding in the BL/BFL is what makes them a good crossing sheep and so you need to put up with a certain degree of hassle in the purebreds.

 

[glensman]

A shepherdlesser?

It's another word for someone with a bit of common sense.

 

[Nithsdale]

A shepherdlesser?

Someone who breeds sheep fit for purpose instead of pissing about delusionally measuring milkiness by ear length

 

[unlacedgecko]

It's another word for someone with a bit of common sense.

Someone who breeds sheep fit for purpose instead of pissing about delusionally measuring milkiness by ear length

I love this website.

I'll add that to my resume, along with "not a stockman cos I have a quad bike".

 

[Woolless]

I love this website.

I'll add that to my resume, along with "not a stockman cos I have a quad bike".

How did they justify that piece of wisdom?

 

[Nithsdale]

Funnily enough, the Border Leicester is a markedly better sheep out in Australia where they have indeed bred for function.

Some progressive Border Leicester society members here wanted to bring back Aus genetics quite recently - to improve the UK breed. This was shot down by the more "stuck in their ways" older breeders - who are incidentally blamed for the decline of the breed...

 

[unlacedgecko]

Funnily enough, the Border Leicester is a markedly better sheep out in Australia where they have indeed bred for function.

Some progressive Border Leicester society members here wanted to bring back Aus genetics quite recently - to improve the UK breed. This was shot down by the more "stuck in their ways" older breeders - who are incidentally blamed for the decline of the breed...

The more I learn about breeds and breed societies the more I realise they're all boll.ocks.

 

[Nithsdale]

The more I learn about breeds and breed societies the more I realise they're all boll.ocks.

Not all.
Societies are usually set up with good intentions. It is the members who are the problem, especially if they become too inwardly looking.

In the BL instance above, the society office bearers were behind the breeder who proposed brining the genetics back from Aus. But in a council, it goes to a vote where it went no farther. The whole needed to be on board, because of the costs involved.



It's amazing what you learn when you go on a few dates with a breed secretary

 

[unlacedgecko]

How did they justify that piece of wisdom?

I'm supplementing my income by doing some tack sheep, mainly on dairy ground and arable stubbles.

I've been running 400 ewes with 3 x 600m Rappa electric fences and a hand barrow. I didn't have a sheep dog either, so was making do with my Labrador. I can send her left and right, which appears to be enough to move mobs to the next paddock.

It was doable, but I ended up spending most of my weekend messing with fences, which was leading to problems with the wife. I've invested in a quad with ATV winder and a cross bred collie/huntaway/kelpie pup.

The ATV has transformed my life. I can move fences, mobs and get ahead with fencing, and still have plenty of time for family at weekends. I'm hoping the dog will have a similar impact when I'm running larger numbers next year.

Due to vehicle availability, I couldn't take the Lab once. After 2 hrs trying to move sheep who wouldn't cross the line of where the fence used to be, I swore never again to try and work sheep without a dog.

why young and stupid ? there are small tweeks you can do to use barrow in mud , and maybe as the person said wants to spend more time with family than his stock , that's the difference between a stockman ond someone that looks after stock imo , reading on here there are some top stockmen and some people whom look after things and switch off when they walk throu the door

 

[Nithsdale]

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Some folks are small minded pettied twunts.
It boils their pi$$ when someone does something they perceive as wrong, or can't be done.. then you get comments like that saying you're not a real stockman


If you're pi$$ing someone off, you're doing something right

 

[unlacedgecko]

Some folks are small minded pettied twunts.
It boils their pi$$ when someone does something they perceive as wrong, or can't be done.. then you get comments like that saying you're not a real stockman


If you're pi$$ing someone off, you're doing something right

That was back in 2016. A lot has changed since then, but I still seen pretty good at pis$ing people off!

 

[Woolless]

That was back in 2016. A lot has changed since then, but I still seen pretty good at pis$ing people off!

I think I remember reading that post at the time and barely believing it! It ranks up there with being told that outdoor lambers only did it that way as they were afraid of hard work. And that from someone who hadn't changed his pants for three weeks over lambing one year. Actually, you may have been involved in that stramash as well

 

[unlacedgecko]

I think I remember reading that post at the time and barely believing it! It ranks up there with being told that outdoor lambers only did it that way as they were afraid of hard work. And that from someone who hadn't changed his pants for three weeks over lambing one year. Actually, you may have been involved in that stramash as well

Undoubtedly I was. Opinionated and gobby, that's me! ?