borehole issue

[Northeastfarmer]

Yes un fortunately. Finding high levels of sodium in the water bumped up the filtering system cost somewhat.

I’ve been quoted 12k all in, I can’t belive higher sodium levels would increase the price that much

 

[Half Pipe]

Exactly. Ours was around £5k. The price the OP stated doesn’t make sense.

Only problem we have started to have this year is the filter has to be changed every month due to a build up of black type clay. Main pipe to pump was changed as the inside of the pipe had built up that much in layers of this stuff, the water couldn’t get through restricting flow rate.

Maybe the OP is experiencing similar problem.

What filter do you guys use? Bloody expensive changing them.

Have you had the water tested?
The black stuff could be manganese

 

[Matt]

I’ve been quoted 12k all in, I can’t belive higher sodium levels would increase the price that much

The filtering machine to remove salt was 8k as it stands. Then you need some other stuff to go with it.

We were originally about the 16k all in before found it was high in sodium.

 

[Matt]

This is our plant room for purification of the water. In addition to a 30,000 l clean water and a 5000 L pre filtering water tank. There 2 vari speed pumps in there at over a grand a piece. [emoji26]

 

[zyklon]

Have you had the water tested?
The black stuff could be manganese

Yes. We have the blue tank similar to Matts that sorts out the Manganese but see no difference.

That’s a serious setup Matt. No wonder it wasn’t cheap.

 

[wellingtonfarmer]

Yes un fortunately. Finding high levels of sodium in the water bumped up the filtering system cost somewhat.

Think I know the company you are on about. They also did a chicken farm near by which found very high salt levels. Cost them a lot as well.

I was also told you could drill 2 boreholes within 10m of each other and get 2 very different flow rates!

 

[Matt]

Think I know the company you are on about. They also did a chicken farm near by which found very high salt levels. Cost them a lot as well.

I was also told you could drill 2 boreholes within 10m of each other and get 2 very different flow rates!

Yes they do a few chicken farms water system too.

To a certain degree the cost of the system doesn't bother me, what would bother me is if we got all this expense and still have to use mains water.

 

[pappuller]

What sort of ground are you on @Matt ? We are on sand and have just lined a borehole to 24 m any deeper and we were in the mudstone which is salt cap and brine below, water will draw from a wet sand seam, blowing out the liner on Monday so will have an idea of flow. Our guys say too many drillers keep going through sand but usually end up with brine, yours may have gone too deep ?sounds v dear, im looking at £15 worse case scenario or £3-4k if we dont have enough to proceed.

 

[Matt]

What sort of ground are you on @Matt ? We are on sand and have just lined a borehole to 24 m any deeper and we were in the mudstone which is salt cap and brine below, water will draw from a wet sand seam, blowing out the liner on Monday so will have an idea of flow. Our guys say too many drillers keep going through sand but usually end up with brine, yours may have gone too deep ?sounds v dear, im looking at £15 worse case scenario or £3-4k if we dont have enough to proceed.

We are on clay loam soil. Good growing soil. Soil underneath is what is known as raglan series marl I think. It's mudstone with sandstone in areas.

Had a refreshing chat with company. They say they are keen to do what they can to help sort it as they havnt delivered what I need.

 

[Full of bull(s)]

I’ve been quoted 12k all in, I can’t belive higher sodium levels would increase the price that much

I had one done in October very lucky really no filters needed at all, direct into a pressure vessel then out into main,yet all our neighbours have high iron and need to filter. 23m drill depth, steel cased to 19m for overburden. Into porous sandstone although the water is very hard and we are having to change drinker valves as the current ones work on a diaphragm and they keep scaling up and flooding pens. Expensive this year with straw as it is. I was warned filtration can get very expensive and if reverse osmosis was needed probably better to write it off

 

[upnortheast]

Into porous sandstone although the water is very hard

Not a big job putting in water softener. Ours uses a couple pallets of salt a year

 

[Turra farmer]

well they quoted to supply water for a new pig unit and farm.
well is drilled to around 66m 220ft. was having trouble after a while with sediment so lifted pump and slowed flow, trouble is we are not keeping up with the pigs. with a bill for just under £39K i want it working right. The salt in the water bumped the bill up by nearly double.

have no leaks as all new water pipe which only comes 50m from borehole to plant room then 50 m into sheds, Incoming meter and borehole well head meter tally.

We have a 7000l header tank and pumps to distribute to sheds , maybe yo just need additional storage ? That way pump running all time at reduced flow

 

[Matt]

I had one done in October very lucky really no filters needed at all, direct into a pressure vessel then out into main,yet all our neighbours have high iron and need to filter. 23m drill depth, steel cased to 19m for overburden. Into porous sandstone although the water is very hard and we are having to change drinker valves as the current ones work on a diaphragm and they keep scaling up and flooding pens. Expensive this year with straw as it is. I was warned filtration can get very expensive and if reverse osmosis was needed probably better to write it off

How much water do you need a day? I'm not sure on true running costs for our reverse osmosis as yet.

 

[Full of bull(s)]

How much water do you need a day? I'm not sure on true running costs for our reverse osmosis as yet.

Not large volumes about 10 cubic metres a day. As for the softener it’s going to cost about £500 one off cost for new valves so thought it was the best way to go keep things simple

 

[zyklon]

What valves did you purchase? Sick of these high flow valves packing up and no one seems to sell replacement parts for them.

 

[Full of bull(s)]

What valves did you purchase? Sick of these high flow valves packing up and no one seems to sell replacement parts for them.

We are all drinker bowls with running bulls as they are all in small groups and are so much cleaner than troughs as well as stronger. We were using Opella valves as they gave good flow and could cope with our high mains pressure. We are swapping them for Fisher Alvin bowl valves as they are simpler and similarly all plastic so no corrosion issues. We struggled with them years ago with valve leakage our mains pressure used to be so high it is lower now but is still around 4 bar. We are running the borehole at that and they seem fine

These are the bowls i make them myself

 

[wellingtonfarmer]

Not large volumes about 10 cubic metres a day. As for the softener it’s going to cost about £500 one off cost for new valves so thought it was the best way to go keep things simple

10000 litres for cattle do you have?
I'm trying to work out how much water I'm gunna use with some extra chicken sheds I'm putting up. Chicken sheds are easy to work out it's the cattle that are confusing me

 

[Full of bull(s)]

10000 litres for cattle do you have?
I'm trying to work out how much water I'm gunna use with some extra chicken sheds I'm putting up. Chicken sheds are easy to work out it's the cattle that are confusing me

Try googling it there are guides. Ours come in 160-200kg and go out at 460-500kg and averaging 22 litres/day. They are on a dry cereal ration which I would have thought would make them drink more but not that big size wise which will keep it down a bit.I think dairy cows drink over 100 litres a day I read somewhere.

 

[pappuller]

We are using 15/16 cube a day (house,180dairy and 3 robots) our borehole is running at 600l an hour at the mo and should increase over time, testing on Monday but it seems v clean to the eye and taste.

 

[Lazy Sod]

Not a big job putting in water softener. Ours uses a couple pallets of salt a year

Is that for drinking water, animal or human? We have a salt type water softener in the house, but we don't drink it, it doesn't taste very nice. On the kitchen sink we have a triple tap so that we can have untreated water for drinking.