Boris’s manifesto promises farm support at current levels for the next five years

[chaffcutter]

This is reported in the daily wail today, got to be good news?

 

[Sonoftheheir]

Tories guarantee farm funding for next five years - Farmers Weekly

The Conservatives have promised to match the current annual budget for agriculture through the next parliament, if they win the general election. Michael

www.fwi.co.uk

 

[Goweresque]

That doesn't mean that BPS will continue as now for another 5 years though. They are only committing to keep the overall budget the same, so it could quite well (and probably would) be spent differently. Less or maybe nothing on universal area payments, more on Greening and 'Public Goods', as has been mentioned before.

I'd have a guess that they'd pick a set of base years, give everyone claiming in those years a pro rata BPS payment regardless of whether they continue farming or not, but taper those payments down to zero over 3 or 4 years. Thus freeing up all the civil servants to work on the new schemes as no annual BPS applications would be needed.

 

[GeorgeK]

That doesn't mean that BPS will continue as now for another 5 years though. They are only committing to keep the overall budget the same, so it could quite well (and probably would) be spent differently. Less or maybe nothing on universal area payments, more on Greening and 'Public Goods', as has been mentioned before.

I'd have a guess that they'd pick a set of base years, give everyone claiming in those years a pro rata BPS payment regardless of whether they continue farming or not, but taper those payments down to zero over 3 or 4 years. Thus freeing up all the civil servants to work on the new schemes as no annual BPS applications would be needed.

And divert as much as possible to park maintenance, mowing verges, HS2 tree planting etc

 

[som farmer]

And divert as much as possible to park maintenance, mowing verges, HS2 tree planting etc
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as long as we can survive on the farm, i'll go for any payments, greening, conservation, woodland, etc, this round nearly 1km of hedges, and double fence.

 

[Brisel]

No mention of capping, nor how it would be spent. This might just be a voter friendly soundbite with no basis when the reshuffle happens after the election.

 

[Bossfarmer]

What about in scotland? The store cattle trade fairly jumped once everyone got their bps loan, wonder what would have happened if it never came?

 

[Still Farming]

Most big landowners are MP's ,Lords ,Aristocracy and Conservative so well received possibly???

 

[Purli R]

Boris made a promise ??

 

[Wombat]

The problem with the schemes is when the turn round and say you cannot do something with the farm 5yrs later. There seems to be a few cases on here, so I would rather paddle my own canoe than join them.

 

[Brisel]

The problem with the schemes is when the turn round and say you cannot do something with the farm 5yrs later. There seems to be a few cases on here, so I would rather paddle my own canoe than join them.

When has there been restrictions on what you do after a scheme ended? There have been issues with arable reversion and current CS has options that last for 10 years. Natural England will try and make it harder for you to plough up some options if you’ve made them environmentally interesting but they can’t stop you.

 

[steveR]

Boris made a promise ??

Ho effing Ho! BJ is Father Christmas....?

Lets be honest, would anyone actually trust the Man? His last lady friend has found he soon drops and runs, and leaves them to sort out the crap...

 

[steveR]

And divert as much as possible to park maintenance, mowing verges, HS2 tree planting etc

And Beaver release and what have you... Can see BJ's latest bit of totty giving him the cold shoulder at night if he doesn't go after the nasty farmers killing the ickle lickle badger wadgers....

 

[steveR]

I'd have a guess that they'd pick a set of base years, give everyone claiming in those years a pro rata BPS payment regardless of whether they continue farming or not, but taper those payments down to zero over 3 or 4 years. Thus freeing up all the civil servants to work on the new schemes as no annual BPS applications would be needed.

Civil Service will never go for that... all those jobs lost!!! Dreaming up and administering new schemes will surely not need as many bods???

 

[steveR]

I'd have a guess that they'd pick a set of base years, give everyone claiming in those years a pro rata BPS payment regardless of whether they continue farming or not, but taper those payments down to zero over 3 or 4 years. Thus freeing up all the civil servants to work on the new schemes as no annual BPS applications would be needed.

Civil Service will never go for that... all those jobs lost!!! Dreaming up and administering new schemes will surely not need as many bods???

 

[Case290]

I think there is a big ( IF ) missing
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[steveR]

I think there is a big ( IF ) missing
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What do you mean... You doubt the Chosen One??

 

[Case290]

Support at current levels (if )
If (you plant trees? )
If you jump through hoops
Or what ever magic they come up with at the ideas table.