Boris Is Toast
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Danllan
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You got one, and don't acknowledge plain facts.
Top of my head, about 45% of gas used here is home sourced, and we buy in about 10% in liquid form from places like Qatar, the remainder comes from 'Europe'. The UK buys very little gas from Russia, it is overwhelmingly the knock-on from European reliance on Russian gas that has effects, we are part of the global market, the obvious corollary to this is that outside price change affects us too. Because something like 75% of UK homes use gas for heating, the affects seem magnified to consumers. The link below should explain the bits you find hard to get.
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Explainer: Why Russian exports hold sway over European and British gas prices
Benchmark European gas prices jumped 15% this week after a major pipeline bringing gas from Russia began sending flows eastwards. But why do Russian exports have such an impact on Europe's gas markets, even in countries that Russia doesn't directly supply?
www.reuters.com
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I would imagine folks were a tad surprised finding the Chancellor on an impromptu visit in Ilfracombe this morning too
I think around 5% of our gas comes from Russia.You got one, and don't acknowledge plain facts.
Top of my head, about 45% of gas used here is home sourced, and we buy in about 10% in liquid form from places like Qatar, the remainder comes from 'Europe'. The UK buys very little gas from Russia, it is overwhelmingly the knock-on from European reliance on Russian gas that has effects, we are part of the global market, the obvious corollary to this is that outside price change affects us too. Because something like 75% of UK homes use gas for heating, the affects seem magnified to consumers. The link below should explain the bits you find hard to get.
Explainer: Why Russian exports hold sway over European and British gas prices
Benchmark European gas prices jumped 15% this week after a major pipeline bringing gas from Russia began sending flows eastwards. But why do Russian exports have such an impact on Europe's gas markets, even in countries that Russia doesn't directly supply?
Hindsight
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Hindsight
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Didn’t want to be seen on the green benches today! Smooth oprator as Sade would sing.
wanton dwarf
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You got one, and don't acknowledge plain facts.
Top of my head, about 45% of gas used here is home sourced, and we buy in about 10% in liquid form from places like Qatar, the remainder comes from 'Europe'. The UK buys very little gas from Russia, it is overwhelmingly the knock-on from European reliance on Russian gas that has effects, we are part of the global market, the obvious corollary to this is that outside price change affects us too. Because something like 75% of UK homes use gas for heating, the affects seem magnified to consumers. The link below should explain the bits you find hard to get.
Explainer: Why Russian exports hold sway over European and British gas prices
Benchmark European gas prices jumped 15% this week after a major pipeline bringing gas from Russia began sending flows eastwards. But why do Russian exports have such an impact on Europe's gas markets, even in countries that Russia doesn't directly supply?
Exactly as expected you trott out the narrative about "Natural Gas".
But the real problem is we import electricity from other countries.
THEY supply other countries which ARE dependant on Russian Natural Gas for their electricity generation. We now import and export electric to France, Ireland and Norway - France and Norway are linked into continental Europe.
The reason why we are linked is because of the requirement to have supplies when the wind doesn't blow and sun doesn't shine.
Green Policy links us directly to Putin.
Putin doesn't have to fight a war, he just has to turn a tap - well done Conservatives.
Danllan
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Oh FFS, could you not make it a bit more convoluted, maybe link in Namibia or Belize somewhere...?
I hope the prospective SMRs and the Morocco deal(s) will cheer you up; as for the green policies linking us to Putin, from your own reasoning you aren't arguing against green policies per se, just against having unreliable extra-national supply chains that make us vulnerable to who/whatever.
If, in a hypothetical world, we had a government of whatever party that just said 'We are going to have an independent 24/7 green electrical supply, based mainly on tidal and wave energy, and we are going to do this, full stop.' And they actually did it, and we had an electricity supply entirely home-grown, and entirely 'green', well, based on what you post you wouldn't have a problem with that.
Would you...?
wanton dwarf
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Oh FFS, could you not make it a bit more convoluted, maybe link in Namibia or Belize somewhere...?
I hope the prospective SMRs and the Morocco deal(s) will cheer you up; as for the green policies linking us to Putin, from your own reasoning you aren't arguing against green policies per se, just against having unreliable extra-national supply chains that make us vulnerable to who/whatever.
If, in a hypothetical world, we had a government of whatever party that just said 'We are going to have an independent 24/7 green electrical supply, based mainly on tidal and wave energy, and we are going to do this, full stop.' And they actually did it, and we had an electricity supply entirely home-grown, and entirely 'green', well, based on what you post you wouldn't have a problem with that.
Would you...?
It's Government Policy.
Reality.
HMG sells Wind Power to the continent.
THIS is the reality of "Green Policy".
Given the FACT Green Policy has FAILED to plan and FAILED to ensure existing fossil fuel supplies at least keep par with demand and they've FAILED to plan for future requirements.
You're assumption about me not arguing against Green Policies is as inept as the Green Policies themselves.
Hindsight
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Says it all..
www.nytimes.com
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A raft of repressive legislation shows the prime minister’s true colors.
Danllan
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In fact it was a presumption, but based on a now obviously erroneous belief. So let's get this right, because now I'm intrigued, you'd be against the UK being a self-sufficient energy producer if the energy comes from renewable sources, is that correct?
wanton dwarf
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In fact it was a presumption, but based on a now obviously erroneous belief. So let's get this right, because now I'm intrigued, you'd be against the UK being a self-sufficient energy producer if the energy comes from renewable sources, is that correct?
At least get yourself educated enough to the state where you understand how "Renewables" work and how the lack of generation is mitigated.
Then you'll be able to answer the question yourself without asking me.
Follow that up with the length of time required to startup or close down a power station.
When you've matched up the potential cycle times for renewables with the time it takes other sources to mitigate outages you'll be able to answer your question.
Danllan
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Well aware of all that. Stop pratting around, I asked you a question - if you can't or won't answer it, don't waste your effort and my time on rubbish. The presumption now has to be that you're against renewables on principal...
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"Principle" - just sayingWell aware of all that. Stop pratting around, I asked you a question - if you can't or won't answer it, don't waste your effort and my time on rubbish. The presumption now has to be that you're against renewables on principal...
wanton dwarf
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Well aware of all that. Stop pratting around, I asked you a question - if you can't or won't answer it, don't waste your effort and my time on rubbish. The presumption now has to be that you're against renewables on principal...
If you know all that then tell me.
When renewables fail to produce power what happens ? How is it mitigated ? How long does it take for a power station to be brought online and how much does it cost ? What happens today to mitigate renewables ?
If you can answer all that you've already answered you're own question - As I already stated once - looks to me as though you want to dodge the facts.
Or is it that you are like Boris, only too willing to spin a fabrication of the truth towards your own ends ?
wanton dwarf
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As regards this childish assumption AGAIN, you can answer that one by actually reading the Renewable threads on this site - where I don't see any posts by you.