Boris

[britishblue]

I also know a virologist who say's the virus becomes weaker with every mutation until it's not a problem at all. Viruses don't want to kill us as it depletes hosts!

 

[The Seeker]

Simply no way can you jab everyone before it mutates again, I imagine it already has in some off beat village in the back of beyond

 

[Lowland1]

How come rich countries and afford to jab these people but can't give them food and water they need in some of the poorest areas?

If Africans don’t have food and water it’s the fault of their own Governments. Handing out food etc doesn’t help anyone in the long term however handing out vaccines is helping everyone here not because Covid is having any great affect on peoples health directly but by the fact that the West is petrified of all the nasty mutations that might occur here and get to them so if we take the vaccines we hope that people will still come here on holidays and all the trade routes will stay open etc. So in essence for most of Africa it’s an economic measure not a health measure.

 

[neilo]

The man has been a car crash of a prime minister from the off.

When he appeared on Have I Got News For You, years ago, we all assuming the bungling fool was a bit of an act.
He has clearly shown that to be the real Boris, yet some still defend him as PM material.

 

[Lowland1]

It’s to stop it mutating , I know a virologist , says covid is nothing but if not vaccinated and it mutates and mutates again …… it has the capacity to wipe us out .. get vaccinated .

I don’t know any virologists but surely mutations are more likely to occur when you put a block in the path of a virus such as a vaccination. Obviously a vaccine helps reduce hospitalization but now there’s the worry about new mutations. Anyway people are getting vaccinated here but surely any virologist worth their salt would be asking why in the poorest parts of the world with not so much food and poor healthcare has Covid been of such low impact. It definitely has the ability to wipe out certain demographics such as the elderly, the overweight and diabetics etc but I still want to know why it has had such limited affect here. And don’t say it’s because they don’t count properly because we’ve never had such healthy people over the last 18 months.

 

[Dave6170]

If Africans don’t have food and water it’s the fault of their own Governments. Handing out food etc doesn’t help anyone in the long term however handing out vaccines is helping everyone here not because Covid is having any great affect on peoples health directly but by the fact that the West is petrified of all the nasty mutations that might occur here and get to them so if we take the vaccines we hope that people will still come here on holidays and all the trade routes will stay open etc. So in essence for most of Africa it’s an economic measure not a health measure.

Mutations more likely to occur in a highly vaccinated area wouldnt it?

 

[ISCO]

When he appeared on Have I Got News For You, years ago, we all assuming the bungling fool was a bit of an act.
He has clearly shown that to be the real Boris, yet some still defend him as PM material.

I cannot understand how anyone can defend or support him as pm.
At this moment it probably siuts both parties for him to remain pm. The Tories can then hang all the fallout from Covid and Brexit on him and still have time to get a creditable leader in before the next election. As for Labour, he is doing Starmer's job for him, so best for them if he stays.as long as possible.

Unless a clear resignation matter is revealed, one that even he can't lie his way out of, I think we are stuck with him for a while yet.

 

[Lowland1]

Mutations more likely to occur in a highly vaccinated area wouldnt it?

You’d think so wouldn’t you ? The actual affect on human health here in Kenya has been minimal however I think the fear in the west is if a variant evolved here that gave the much tougher people here a bit of a cough then it would take out most of the Home Counties.

 

[neilo]

Mutations more likely to occur in a highly vaccinated area wouldnt it?

No, all viruses mutate, all of the time. Most mutations won't make any difference, some will be less transmissible and die out, others will be the opposite. Given how widespread this one is, there are many millions of hosts carrying it at any one time, so a great many mutations will be evolving constantly.

Modern tech means that we can detect those mutations more readily now, so they are flagged up more.

 

[Ffermer Bach]

I have been double vaccinated, so have nothing against vaccines (and I wish I had got round to Black leg vaccinating the calves this year - but that is another sorry story!), but I am getting so angry about the pressure (and legislation in Europe) to force people to have their vaccines. I agree with Neil Oliver (GB News) that no government should force someone to have a vaccination.

 

[Dave6170]

No, all viruses mutate, all of the time. Most mutations won't make any difference, some will be less transmissible and die out, others will be the opposite. Given how widespread this one is, there are many millions of hosts carrying it at any one time, so a great many mutations will be evolving constantly.

Modern tech means that we can detect those mutations more readily now, so they are flagged up more.

My wife's aunt is retired from the NHS, she said from the very start before any variants were mentioned that there was no point in vaccination at this stage because they have no idea what the dominant strain will be. It would keep mutated. Finding an effective treatment was the best course of action, also keep healty and boost your immune system.

 

[toquark]

Covid and the vaccines are not, and I'm coming to think, never were about a virus. They're about control. For those still thinking that their compliance will lead to the shortening of the restrictions, I'm sorry but you're woefully naive and have a very socially distanced grasp of human history and behavioral tendencies. Compliance serves only to ensure their continuation and restrictions will remain so long as people accept their presence.

As for Boris, he's just a charlatan who doesn't care about freedom or anything else beyond being adored and getting his end away, he is using this week's variant to sweep his own bad press under the carpet.

 

[Ashtree]

Looks like the Chinese communist party would be very proud of Boris….

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...munist-party-members-must-have-three-children

 

[Ffermer Bach]

 

[Muck Spreader]

Boris Johnson on overpopulation 2007: “Whatever it may now be conventional to say, that single biggest challenge is not global warming. That is a secondary challenge. The primary challenge facing our species is the reproduction of our species itself."

The sooner people wake up to this hypocritical self serving twunt the better in my opinion!

Another bit from the 'cockwomble'. But I assume it was in the context of only elites should be allowed unrestricted breeding.

 

[SilliamWhale]

I cannot understand how anyone can defend or support him as pm.
At this moment it probably siuts both parties for him to remain pm. The Tories can then hang all the fallout from Covid and Brexit on him and still have time to get a creditable leader in before the next election. As for Labour, he is doing Starmer's job for him, so best for them if he stays.as long as possible.

Unless a clear resignation matter is revealed, one that even he can't lie his way out of, I think we are stuck with him for a while yet.

The other question is what is the alternative.

He also won the election fair and square.

 

[SilliamWhale]

Covid and the vaccines are not, and I'm coming to think, never were about a virus. They're about control. For those still thinking that their compliance will lead to the shortening of the restrictions, I'm sorry but you're woefully naive and have a very socially distanced grasp of human history and behavioral tendencies. Compliance serves only to ensure their continuation and restrictions will remain so long as people accept their presence.

As for Boris, he's just a charlatan who doesn't care about freedom or anything else beyond being adored and getting his end away, he is using this week's variant to sweep his own bad press under the carpet.

Picture the future.



Firstly it was lockdown and don't go outside for longer than 1/2 hr.
Then it was masks or if not please have a lanyard
Then it was you are not "behaving" so lockdown again


Now its had your 3 monthly jab? No

firstly you can't come in to this premises
Then you can't work here
Then you cannot access digital social security or other govt induced benefits
Then you have to become and get used to becoming compliant in order to get what you need.
Once you are compliant it is easier for others to act in you "best interests"...

Nudge, nudge, nudge.

Its not about a medical issue. We were told to lockdown to flatten the curve - we did it. Then the rules changed....and they keep changing. There is a possibility it won't end well but luckily the UK has always had a stronger libertarian streak than Europe

 

[steveR]

When he appeared on Have I Got News For You, years ago, we all assuming the bungling fool was a bit of an act.
He has clearly shown that to be the real Boris, yet some still defend him as PM material.

As many have said, it was Dominic Cummins who was the brains and power behind Johnson getting elected. Carrie Antoinette and her courtiers, have changed this somewhat, and the real Bozo is now evident for all to see.

What the rest of the World must think of him, and by association, us, is best left unsaid. Mind, Vlad is probably chuckling away...

 

[ISCO]

The other question is what is the alternative.

He also won the election fair and square.

There must be a better alternative within Conservative MP's surely. Someone who looks half tidy and can string a sentence together would be a start.

No one is saying he didn't win the election fair and square. He is just not up to the job and needs replacing.

 

[Hilly]

I cannot understand how anyone can defend or support him as pm.
At this moment it probably siuts both parties for him to remain pm. The Tories can then hang all the fallout from Covid and Brexit on him and still have time to get a creditable leader in before the next election. As for Labour, he is doing Starmer's job for him, so best for them if he stays.as long as possible.

Unless a clear resignation matter is revealed, one that even he can't lie his way out of, I think we are stuck with him for a while yet.

Who cares ? Best the devil you know as the one you don’t , we ai t had a decent primeminoster since Maggie, and none in the wings on any team .