Boris's plan is working ...

[bobk]

Not sure there is one but he's certainly put the wind up the snowflakes in Westminster , and hopefully the EU , can't beat unpredictable .

I reckon he'll get a better deal than that woman , there's rumours of an Irish CU just for Ag produce , that stands a chance imo

 

[caveman]

Not sure there is one but he's certainly put the wind up the snowflakes in Westminster , and hopefully the EU , can't beat unpredictable .

I reckon he'll get a better deal than that woman , there's rumours of an Irish CU just for Ag produce , that stands a chance imo

They be desperate to flog their beef and butter on Treasure Island.

 

[Martin Holden]

Working or not I don’t know, but Brexit run up has started. A matrix sign on the M5 southbound just 1m south of Junction 11 today was warning of being prepared with paperwork for goods destined for the EU from November 1! I thought “well you read it here first”. Presumably the Highways Agency has been asked to do this. Some social media sites have run ads saying “are you ready for Brexit?” Not sure how we are meant to prepare to be honest! Some predict Armageddon but this is nonsense. I just can’t see systems failing and travel to and from the EU being stopped . If anything like this happens, then frankly we are better off out of the club as it would prove how insular it has become. Common trading area - yes - common political and monetary area - no thank you!

 

[bobk]

They be desperate to flog their beef and butter on Treasure Island.

Indeed , if he can push on albeit on a winger , the nearer it's gets to the 31st then panic should take over , after all we've got fa to lose .

 

[M-J-G]

I'll be intersted to see the results.

 

[renewablejohn]

Not sure there is one but he's certainly put the wind up the snowflakes in Westminster , and hopefully the EU , can't beat unpredictable .

I reckon he'll get a better deal than that woman , there's rumours of an Irish CU just for Ag produce , that stands a chance imo

Job done thanks to the Queens Speech we now leave on the 31st Oct and theres nothing Parliament can do about it.

 

[bobk]

Job done thanks to the Queens Speech we now leave on the 31st Oct and theres nothing Parliament can do about it.

How do you work that out

 

[Scribus]

Job done thanks to the Queens Speech we now leave on the 31st Oct and theres nothing Parliament can do about it.

Clear and exelempary logic from you as always, perhaps you might explain it to the rest of us.

 

[renewablejohn]

How do you work that out

Just look up the special powers associated with the queens speech in particular what parliament can and cannot do on that day.

 

[renewablejohn]

Clear and exelempary logic from you as always, perhaps you might explain it to the rest of us.

Why would I do that I am sure you can work it out for yourself now you have the clue of the queens speech being the key factor for leaving on the 31st October. Dont want any remainers trying to putanother spanner in the works.

 

[alex04w]

This should be in the Brexit Humour thread, but seems very apt to the title of this thread!

 

[Henarar]

This should be in the Brexit Humour thread, but seems very apt to the title of this thread!

What would the sentence be if he didn't go ?

 

[Agrivator]

This should be in the Brexit Humour thread, but seems very apt to the title of this thread!

Point of Order. Did the ruling that the PM must write to the EU to ask for an extension, apply specifically to the current PM (Boris) or to whoever happens to be PM at the time?

And in any court case, could Boris insist on being tried by a Jury?

 

[graham99]

Why would I do that I am sure you can work it out for yourself now you have the clue of the queens speech being the key factor for leaving on the 31st October. Dont want any remainers trying to putanother spanner in the works.

all tough the west the people have forgotton the govt has power's a lot of us wont like.
ie, if china takes the bait ,and starts world war three, a lot govts problems just go away

 

[wanton dwarf]

LSE Blog on Brexit and Queens Consent.

BTW if you don't already know Letwin & Bercow's bill does NOT have Queens Consent as Bercow ruled it doesn't need it - matter of legal debate if it does.

Proponents of the new Bill to stop No Deal face a significant dilemma over Queen’s Consent

MPs opposed to a no-deal Brexit have now published their Bill. Robert Craig (LSE) explains why the existence of Queen’s Consent means that they face a complex legal Catch-22 in their efforts …

blogs.lse.ac.uk

Comments are interesting reading too.

 

[Henarar]

https://www.facebook.com/2256736451218853/posts/2909979492561209

 

[Hindsight]

EEC,EU and the economy
By JOHNREDWOOD | Published: SEPTEMBER 17, 2019
The Remain case for staying in the EU is always based on the unproven economic advantages. These are said to be important and are often argued around alleged problems which would hit us if we dared to leave. One of the ironies is those who claim to hold the highest regard for the EU usually suggest the EU will behave particularly badly if we just leave, ignoring the EU Treaties which require friendly pro trade relations with neighbours.
When we first entered the EEC the sudden shock of removing all tariff protection for our industry helped weaken key sectors badly. In the first ten years of our membership car output halved. The steel industry suffered bad declines, leading to closures of large modern plants. Textiles also suffered closures and bad job losses. There was no offsetting liberalisation of services where the UK was a strong competitor.
In the second decade of our membership the UK accepted the need to enter the European Exchange Rate Mechanism. This policy had the predictable effect of ending in a major recession for the UK, with huge losses on enforced foreign exchange trading. This accelerated damaging decline in UK industry.
In the fourth decade of our membership the UK suffered from the western banking crisis, making similar policy errors to the ECB and Fed. On the EU side of the Atlantic recovery was much slower thanks to the Maastricht debt and deficit guidelines which the UK included in policy as well as the Eurozone and to other features of shared economic and business policy. Our greater involvement with the poorly performing Eurozone also slowed our recovery.
The UK has run a large trade deficit with the EU for most of our time in it. Meanwhile we have a good surplus with the rest of the world, in spite of EU tariffs and by trading with no free trade agreements with the main countries.

 

[czechmate]

At least that one is quite short for him

 

[Henarar]

EEC,EU and the economy
By JOHNREDWOOD | Published: SEPTEMBER 17, 2019
The Remain case for staying in the EU is always based on the unproven economic advantages. These are said to be important and are often argued around alleged problems which would hit us if we dared to leave. One of the ironies is those who claim to hold the highest regard for the EU usually suggest the EU will behave particularly badly if we just leave, ignoring the EU Treaties which require friendly pro trade relations with neighbours.
When we first entered the EEC the sudden shock of removing all tariff protection for our industry helped weaken key sectors badly. In the first ten years of our membership car output halved. The steel industry suffered bad declines, leading to closures of large modern plants. Textiles also suffered closures and bad job losses. There was no offsetting liberalisation of services where the UK was a strong competitor.
In the second decade of our membership the UK accepted the need to enter the European Exchange Rate Mechanism. This policy had the predictable effect of ending in a major recession for the UK, with huge losses on enforced foreign exchange trading. This accelerated damaging decline in UK industry.
In the fourth decade of our membership the UK suffered from the western banking crisis, making similar policy errors to the ECB and Fed. On the EU side of the Atlantic recovery was much slower thanks to the Maastricht debt and deficit guidelines which the UK included in policy as well as the Eurozone and to other features of shared economic and business policy. Our greater involvement with the poorly performing Eurozone also slowed our recovery.
The UK has run a large trade deficit with the EU for most of our time in it. Meanwhile we have a good surplus with the rest of the world, in spite of EU tariffs and by trading with no free trade agreements with the main countries.

according to some the eu has done our economy marvels so which is it ? Or has it only helped certain people/sectors?

 

[Danllan]

Just look up the special powers associated with the queens speech in particular what parliament can and cannot do on that day.

The Queen hasn't made her speech, yet. And, anyway, law can be made very quickly when needed.

What would the sentence be if he didn't go ?

There is no precedent and Parliament can, literally, make it up as they go along. My guess is that there would be a token imprisonment imposed by the Commons of maybe an hour or two somewhere in the Palace of Westminster, the Clock Tower probably - just to show they can. (without ear defenders, out of spite)

Point of Order. Did the ruling that the PM must write to the EU to ask for an extension, apply specifically to the current PM (Boris) or to whoever happens to be PM at the time?

And in any court case, could Boris insist on being tried by a Jury?

The Surrender Act applies to anyone holding the office of Prime Minister, so not just Boris.

This might come as a surprise, but Parliament is the highest Court in the UK, not the Supreme Court; so far this has only been a technical fact. As such it could decide to try him or could pass that pleasure elsewhere. If it were to go to the lower Courts I am not sure what they would go with, Contempt of Parliament? There are no penalties stated in the Act for ignoring it, there is nothing telling us that not abiding by it is an indictable offence or either-way, or whatever... Maybe he would be told to sit on the naughty step at the feet of the Speaker?

They can't, constitutionally, even compel him to resign - only call a vote of no confidence, which is what he wants...